Independent Amico Discussion Thread

[roots.genoa]

1 hour ago, Tommy Tallarico said:

I don't think the WarioWare gameplay is necessarily too complex... I would contend that the characters and presentation do not appeal to most folks.  Even hardcore PS & XBOX users can't stand the over the top kiddie style stuff that most of the Nintendo 1st party games tout.

They were obvioulsy talking about WarioWare in terms of gameplay, not the Japanese art direction we know you dislike. -_-

[SegaSnatcher]

1 minute ago, roots.genoa said:

They were obvioulsy talking about WarioWare in terms of gameplay, not the Japanese art direction we know you dislike. -_-

Exactly, it was the gameplay I was talking about, not the artstyle.  I'm sure INTV could take Warioware style gameplay mechanics and add their own spin on it in terms of presentation.

[skaredmask]

 My story I'm 37,Husband,Father, I have the Coolest 6 year old daughter ever!

 

  I was born in 1982 and grew up on Atari, Commodore, Tandy, Celcovision, Nintendo. In my youth Video games were more passive than an Active part of my life. Games where what you you played once you got your homework done or before you went to bed or what you played in your free time or were friends were over. Other than that most of my time was outside playing baseball, adventuring or bumming around. I remember asking my parents "Just one more game before bed" Playing with my dad on the commodore 64 or Atari,playing asteroids or PAC-man. 

 

  In my early twenty's I was a  ""hardcore gamer"" and a avid ""collector""  I had huge collection and I even joined Atari age in my later twenty's at that time. I used to be online playing Kill zone 3  or whatever game that came out that looked interesting to me and spending hours playing fallout 3 or fallout 3 getting all that loot and stuff and trying to get my friends online to play World of Warcraft or Guild wars.

 

  When I turned 31 my world of gaming changed with the birth of awesomeness my daughter. during this time or lack of there of I noticed I couldn't game like I used too so I started buying more arcade like games that I could play for moment before I went to bed or the little breaks in between times were I could slip it in my schedule. The game's that I noticed that that I could enjoy was easy pick up and go games like Street fighter,Mortal Kombat,Splatter or some random indie games from PlayStation network that mainly didn't play that well but didn't take a time invest to play.   

 

 My wife and I lives on a limed tight budget and time. Most of our money and time goes to my daughters needs in terms of grocery's and school projects,house maintenance and car maintenance AKA the price of living and there always something that needs to be done. My wife and I are still interested in playing games and want to include my daughter with our games so we can do something different with her but we really can't budget all the stuff that is necessary for a new game system and feel like we were forgotten about. I actually bought a Macintosh Classic II for our family so we can play games like Arkaniods and it's simple but still challenging game play that doesn't require a lot of time to have fun with but still kid appropriate.

 

  This is why my wife pre ordered the Amico cause while our gaming has change it's not gone and while there is mobile gaming there really isn't a easy way to learn or tech someone how to play games (especially a 6 year old)by looking over there shoulder or give them praise when they do something cool or spectral cause you probably missed it. My dad saw how I got the high school or I saw how he got his and that simple premised is what keep those games alive far passed what there were supposed to. Some people even have camcorder tape of them betting the scores back in the day. I strongly believe that my wife and I are the demographic that Tommy is targeting and other parents/kids/teens are looking for that excitement.

[+Tommy Tallarico]

2 minutes ago, skaredmask said:

 My story I'm 37,Husband,Father, I have the Coolest 6 year old daughter ever!

 

  I was born in 1982 and grew up on Atari, Commodore, Tandy, Celcovision, Nintendo. In my youth Video games were more passive than an Active part of my life. Games where what you you played once you got your homework done or before you went to bed or what you played in your free time or were friends were over. Other than that most of my time was outside playing baseball, adventuring or bumming around. I remember asking my parents "Just one more game before bed" Playing with my dad on the commodore 64 or Atari,playing asteroids or PAC-man. 

 

  In my early twenty's I was a  ""hardcore gamer"" and a avid ""collector""  I had huge collection and I even joined Atari age in my later twenty's at that time. I used to be online playing Kill zone 3  or whatever game that came out that looked interesting to me and spending hours playing fallout 3 or fallout 3 getting all that loot and stuff and trying to get my friends online to play World of Warcraft or Guild wars.

 

  When I turned 31 my world of gaming changed with the birth of awesomeness my daughter. during this time or lack of there of I noticed I couldn't game like I used too so I started buying more arcade like games that I could play for moment before I went to bed or the little breaks in between times were I could slip it in my schedule. The game's that I noticed that that I could enjoy was easy pick up and go games like Street fighter,Mortal Kombat,Splatter or some random indie games from PlayStation network that mainly didn't play that well but didn't take a time invest to play.   

 

 My wife and I lives on a limed tight budget and time. Most of our money and time goes to my daughters needs in terms of grocery's and school projects,house maintenance and car maintenance AKA the price of living and there always something that needs to be done. My wife and I are still interested in playing games and want to include my daughter with our games so we can do something different with her but we really can't budget all the stuff that is necessary for a new game system and feel like we were forgotten about. I actually bought a Macintosh Classic II for our family so we can play games like Arkaniods and it's simple but still challenging game play that doesn't require a lot of time to have fun with but still kid appropriate.

 

  This is why my wife pre ordered the Amico cause while our gaming has change it's not gone and while there is mobile gaming there really isn't a easy way to learn or tech someone how to play games (especially a 6 year old)by looking over there shoulder or give them praise when they do something cool or spectral cause you probably missed it. My dad saw how I got the high school or I saw how he got his and that simple premised is what keep those games alive far passed what there were supposed to. Some people even have camcorder tape of them betting the scores back in the day. I strongly believe that my wife and I are the demographic that Tommy is targeting and other parents/kids/teens are looking for that excitement.

Thank you for sharing your story.  Can't wait to hear stories of you, your wife and "coolest 6 year old daughter" playing games together again!

 

 

 

[+Tommy Tallarico]

Here's an interesting video that was uploaded today.

In case it's deleted, here's a record of the video.

 

TITLE:  The Intellivision Amico is a scam. False "sold out" hype and youtubers shilling & selling the story.

 

Description:  Tommy Talerico we know your cock is small. Quit selling junk to autistic beta male adults and work on cock enlargement.  This system is no different than the marketing scheme for Revenge of the Bird King. Take notice of which ebay seller(s) end up selling and relisting, relisting, relisting... Not sold out not limited just a marketing hype scheme. False sense of rarity and demand. Intellivision is GAY, TOMMY.

The video itself is just some random thing they uploaded.  But the name of the video, the video description and their comments say it all.

Given the title of the video and the timing... I wonder if this person has been a part of this thread at some point?

This is the level we are dealing with here.

Yeah... yeah... everyone is going to tell me to just "chill" or ignore it.  Those folks would be missing the point.  I could care less about idiotic crap like this.  And whether you believe me or not... it doesn't bother me.  I actually laugh to myself knowing how much these fools focus on Amico and me... to the point that they feel the need to do things like this.

I only bring it up here to once again showcase the level of immaturity and hatred some people have.
 

Have fun engaging with these folks.

 

 

[SegaSnatcher]

11 minutes ago, skaredmask said:

 

I hope you and your family get much enjoyment out of your new purchase.  I think I was around 5 yrs old when my Mother bought us the NES Action Set and we had so much fun together. 

[skaredmask]

Can't Teach this....

 

 

 

When you got to break through this.....

 

 

 

 

NUFF SAID...

[digdugnate]

Good to see this didnt turn into another Tommy shill thread.  🙄

[AtariLeaf]

1 hour ago, Tommy Tallarico said:

Here's an interesting video that was uploaded today.

In case it's deleted, here's a record of the video.

 

TITLE:  The Intellivision Amico is a scam. False "sold out" hype and youtubers shilling & selling the story.

 

Description:  Tommy Talerico we know your cock is small. Quit selling junk to autistic beta male adults and work on cock enlargement.  This system is no different than the marketing scheme for Revenge of the Bird King. Take notice of which ebay seller(s) end up selling and relisting, relisting, relisting... Not sold out not limited just a marketing hype scheme. False sense of rarity and demand. Intellivision is GAY, TOMMY.

The video itself is just some random thing they uploaded.  But the name of the video, the video description and their comments say it all.

Given the title of the video and the timing... I wonder if this person has been a part of this thread at some point?

This is the level we are dealing with here.

Yeah... yeah... everyone is going to tell me to just "chill" or ignore it.  Those folks would be missing the point.  I could care less about idiotic crap like this.  And whether you believe me or not... it doesn't bother me.  I actually laugh to myself knowing how much these fools focus on Amico and me... to the point that they feel the need to do things like this.

I only bring it up here to once again showcase the level of immaturity and hatred some people have.
 

Have fun engaging with these folks.

 

 

I've said this before and I'll say it again - YouTube and especially the YouTube comment section is full of intellectual diarrhea. Don't worry about what small minded children think

[1001lives]

1 hour ago, Tommy Tallarico said:

Here's an interesting video that was uploaded today.

In case it's deleted, here's a record of the video.

 

TITLE:  The Intellivision Amico is a scam. False "sold out" hype and youtubers shilling & selling the story.

 

Description:  Tommy Talerico we know your cock is small. Quit selling junk to autistic beta male adults and work on cock enlargement.  This system is no different than the marketing scheme for Revenge of the Bird King. Take notice of which ebay seller(s) end up selling and relisting, relisting, relisting... Not sold out not limited just a marketing hype scheme. False sense of rarity and demand. Intellivision is GAY, TOMMY.

The video itself is just some random thing they uploaded.  But the name of the video, the video description and their comments say it all.

Given the title of the video and the timing... I wonder if this person has been a part of this thread at some point?

This is the level we are dealing with here.

Yeah... yeah... everyone is going to tell me to just "chill" or ignore it.  Those folks would be missing the point.  I could care less about idiotic crap like this.  And whether you believe me or not... it doesn't bother me.  I actually laugh to myself knowing how much these fools focus on Amico and me... to the point that they feel the need to do things like this.

I only bring it up here to once again showcase the level of immaturity and hatred some people have.
 

Have fun engaging with these folks.

 

 

These are the people who are just unhappy in general and want to spread their negativity. They are meaningless in the long run and they will say everything is a scam and everything will fail no matter what it is.

[Spriggy]

[Kiwi]

27 minutes ago, 1001lives said:

TITLE:  The Intellivision Amico is a scam. False "sold out" hype and youtubers shilling & selling the story.

Wow, the Amico isn't even out yet.  They have until October 10, 2020.  They haven't taken anybody's money yet but the pre-orders for the Founder's Edition.  It is not kickstarted or indiegogo'd.  So it's isn't a scam.  Still early but they are still working on the games.  I'm watching this project and I believe they'll pull through. 

[SegaSnatcher]

Woah, just saw this old Bonus Round episode with Tommy and look what game is playing while he's talking, none other then the game I mentioned earlier (Warioware).  Pretty funny.  

I use to love this show, too bad it doesn't exist anymore.
 

 

[MrBeefy]

6 hours ago, Swami said:

Can't please everyone.

Ain't that the truth.

[MrBeefy]

6 hours ago, Tommy Tallarico said:

Have you seen any of my interviews?  I'm VERY excited.  

Yes I have and yes you are. 😁

[MrBeefy]

6 hours ago, Tommy Tallarico said:

As I've said a million times... we haven't even begun to show the titles that we'll be promoting to mom's & families.  Not a single one.

Yeah I know that's why I asked in the Q&A when we could expect a more casual friendly game. The retro reimagined is cool, but I want to see some of the Wii Sports type stuff.

 

Well except Cloudy Mountain. Think I want to see that more than anything.

[roots.genoa]

22 minutes ago, SegaSnatcher said:

Woah, just saw this old Bonus Round episode with Tommy and look what game is playing while he's talking, none other then the game I mentioned earlier (Warioware).  Pretty funny.  

I use to love this show, too bad it doesn't exist anymore.

Thank you SO MUCH! Thanks to you I found the video I was referring here just before Tommy Tallarico started his Q&A thread:

I clearly remembered that Tommy didn't like the Wii controllers and wanted to put them back together, but I had forgotten he also claimed graphics were important even for casual gamers back then!

At least it proves people can change, since his behaviour in the video is basically the one he criticizes today among hardcore gamers.

[Flojomojo]

1 hour ago, digdugnate said:

Good to see this didnt turn into another Tommy shill thread.  🙄

I know ... so many threads have turned into the home shopping network.
 

I started out mildly curious, but thanks to mister hard-sell, I'm completely turned off from anything to do with it. I don't know how much money they've actually raised from investors, but the constant, desperate filibustering makes me question the judgment and competence of the whole project. 
 

If there's to be a big reveal at E3, I'm content to wait for that, without having to see dozens of rah-rah posts every single day. 
 

A discussion question about economics and pricing: 

Given that flagship smartphones cost more than $800, a fast food lunch is $10, a retro mini system approaches $100: what is a reasonable stating price for something that is trying to break in? Is $200 still the magic number, or has inflation allowed that to creep upwards? Or does value come from what is actually shown?

[mr_me]

8 hours ago, MrBeefy said:

I think you are missing the point that they have the data and we don't. So, when it comes to discussions it becomes a, "You are wrong, or a you don't have the data." arguement. 

 

Also not sure where I said he needs it before release. Didn't say he needs to release it now either. Just mentioned what I thought would be a hurdle and pointed out that the data he spoke of isn't something we have. (Hence the Chemistry/History reference).

 

Best consumers want more information and to be informed of their purchases. Unfortunately, you can look at the Atacoshoebox as a great example of not doing research/waiting for more information before giving away your money.

 

In case you didn't know Missouri is the Show Me state. So that wasn't a reference in actually showing it. I wouldn't expect that honestly.

I started taking this seriously when I heard about how much venture capital they raised, and more so with how they are spending that money.  We've already been shown some of the key people leading engineering, game development, marketing, and it's very impressive.  Raising venture capital is different than crowd funding.  It's not based on a hope and a prayer, a prototype is not enough.  These people expect a return on their investment.  They must have raised about $20 million, and they're not done.  All the social media work and the success of the founders edition, that to me seems like a waste of time, will help raise more venture capital.  Most of that money is budgeted for marketing, and a very important huge chunk of that is being spent on game development, and finally engineering.  They've already gone to the largest retailers to secure purchase orders.  With all that they can and have secured over $100M for manufacturing.  Unless it's all a big lie, this is a case of, if a=b and b=c, then a=c.

Edited February 4, 2020 by mr_me

[digdugnate]

My apologies to @MrBeefy for derailing the thread.  

 

I have enjoyed (for the most part) reading the discussions in this impartial thread.

[mr_me]

24 minutes ago, Flojomojo said:

I know ... so many threads have turned into the home shopping network.
 

I started out mildly curious, but thanks to mister hard-sell, I'm completely turned off from anything to do with it. I don't know how much money they've actually raised from investors, but the constant, desperate filibustering makes me question the judgment and competence of the whole project. 
 

If there's to be a big reveal at E3, I'm content to wait for that, without having to see dozens of rah-rah posts every single day. 
 

A discussion question about economics and pricing: 

Given that flagship smartphones cost more than $800, a fast food lunch is $10, a retro mini system approaches $100: what is a reasonable stating price for something that is trying to break in? Is $200 still the magic number, or has inflation allowed that to creep upwards? Or does value come from what is actually shown?

We've been told that the feedback from retailers is that anything under $250 is fine.  And the fact it comes with two controllers and five games helps with the value.  Of course they have to deliver on the quality of the hardware and software.

[Spriggy]

5 minutes ago, digdugnate said:

My apologies to @MrBeefy for derailing the thread.  

 

I have enjoyed (for the most part) reading the discussions in this impartial thread.

I don't see it as a derail DD, but more of an observation.  However, I too will follow suit and apologies for one of my usual cheeky retorts.   Feel free to send me too the corner with no bacon for a week.

[digdugnate]

18 minutes ago, Spriggy said:

I don't see it as a derail DD, but more of an observation.  However, I too will follow suit and apologies for one of my usual cheeky retorts.   Feel free to send me too the corner with no bacon for a week.

no... bacon?  😪 

 

as a funny aside in a way, last fall i had a bit of a heart scare that ended up with a procedure to get stuff sorted. cured meats were one of the things the cardiologist said that I needed to cut out of my diet.

 

i'm still eating bacon. 

Edited February 4, 2020 by digdugnate

[digdugnate]

to keep this back in the scope of the discussion, i remember there being talk of Microsurgeon being one of the games that was mentioned with the Amico. 

 

Having played a bunch of this as a kid on the 994a, i keep meaning to look up info to see if there's updated screenshots or if it will even be a 'thing' still. 

[1001lives]

1 hour ago, Flojomojo said:

I know ... so many threads have turned into the home shopping network.
 

I started out mildly curious, but thanks to mister hard-sell, I'm completely turned off from anything to do with it. I don't know how much money they've actually raised from investors, but the constant, desperate filibustering makes me question the judgment and competence of the whole project. 
 

If there's to be a big reveal at E3, I'm content to wait for that, without having to see dozens of rah-rah posts every single day. 

This may come off pretty heavy handed , but I needed to say it. I apologize for any derailment, and I DO understand this is an independent thread (supposed to be).

 

You strike me as the same kind of person who would also be flustered and upset if there was no communication or very little communication.

 

To lay out the series of choices you have made... You willingly come to an Amico discussion thread, in an area of this website where Tommy is very active, and expose yourself to the updates and communication deliberately... Then say "Wow, all this communication from the lead at Intellivision has really turned me off!" (again, I know this is an independent thread, but given the insults and accusations that were flying of course anyone can come in and defend themselves).

 

It's one thing to say that, fine, but then to go further and start to question judgment and competence just because this guy's a regular person like you and I discussing his ideas and keeping folks updated every day is beyond silly. It's neither here nor there - you can take it or leave it. You can put in as much energy as you want, or as little, and you've surely invested no money in this. So what was the purpose of this comment other than to act smug?

Edited February 4, 2020 by 1001lives