Intellivision Amico - Tommy Tallarico introduction + Q&A

6 minutes ago, Stillagamer said:

Okay then whats the point of making earthworm jim? Wouldnt that be like a mario or zelda in your scenario?

I don’t know, do you? We haven’t seen anything about that title yet, only heard some comments about very unique ways they are going to use the Amico controller. But regardless of what type/category of game that title will be and what audience it will appeal to, the point would be to have something for everyone, so that game might be more appealing to you, while a 7 year old might be more interested in a game like Shark! Shark! 

12 minutes ago, Stillagamer said:

Okay king nit picker, i just said i have nothing against Shark! Shark! Im always going to remember this game now lol relax. All of these games could be outsourced to one studio and 99% of the people who play it wont tell the difference. Its a tiny subset of a subset of the gaming community who will be happy these games are getting higher quality remakes than something an outside developer can do. I guess thats cool but you cant convince me thats not a waste of time in the grander scheme of things because you dont care about the grander scheme of things. You just want your Atari and Intellivision games to come back in all their glory, to the applause of like 50 people on Atari Age. Come on man. Youll get what you want. Im more interested in the potential of this thing and its much greater than retro! Party console sure. This could be better and nobody here will give good feedback because youre already getting what you want. I dont want anything out of the Amico im just giving my honest opinion. Yeah it hurts. F the market research. If i make a massage chair i bet the data will show me that old men will like it.

The games developed for Amico are outsourced. Shark! Shark! was developed in Germany by Bonus Level Entertainment and NeoBird. Intellivision Skiing by Aesir Interactive, Farkle from Spaceflower and Cornhole from NeoBird.

So what is the point here?

2 minutes ago, theswede said:

I don’t know, do you? We haven’t seen anything about that title yet, only heard some comments about very unique ways they are going to use the Amico controller. But regardless of what type/category of game that title will be and what audience it will appeal to, the point would be to have something for everyone, so that game might be more appealing to you, while a 7 year old might be more interested in a game like Shark! Shark! 

Okay enough with the damn Shark! Shark! LOL. Lets say youre 100% correct even though i seriously doubt it. 4 year old maybe. 7 year olds have big imaginations they like minecraft and things like that. My point is the hypothetical 7 year old doesnt care about the difference in a B- Shark! Shark!, and an A+ one. The only one who does is YOU. So wouldnt that time be better spent on making new IPs, beautiful games with beautiful soundtracks and unique Amico mechanics? I remember i played the Zelda game on the DS and i had to blow into the microphone to blow out a candle or make a windmill spin. Or games like Drawn to life that the Amico could do and more. Would you rather have your 7 year old playing something cool like that or would you force them to play games like they were "in the good old days"? The former right? In my opinion too much time and energy has been spent on the retro games and the lineup is lackluster as a result. With the team around this and the neat things about the Amico, thats inexcusable. And im helping out my brother Tommy by telling him the truth and waking him up from you retro cultists lmao

This is tonight at 9pm.

16 minutes ago, Intellivision Master said:

This is tonight at 9pm. (EASTERN TIME) Edit by Le Pionnier

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10 minutes ago, Stillagamer said:

My point is the hypothetical 7 year old doesnt care about the difference in a B- Shark! Shark!, and an A+ one. The only one who does is YOU.

This would be dead on for me if 7 year olds had jobs. I think getting the machine off the ground in some way, such as having some nostalgic parents buy some of these, and then also offering some experiences you are talking about once there is some momentum, can also have success. There is a risk that it gets stuck in the retro groove and fails. But don’t discount the passion Tommy has for both Intellivision and for multiplayer experiences. His passion is the true fuel for this project, and although it may have some risk to not be able to grow from the retro portion, without that entrepreneurial fuel, I feel it would have even lower chance of success. 
 

The nonstop motor he has shown makes me believe he has a good chance to succeed, along with the great team he has with him. 

25 minutes ago, Stillagamer said:

My point is the hypothetical 7 year old doesnt care about the difference in a B- Shark! Shark!, and an A+ one. The only one who does is YOU. 

Let's give the kids shit because they don't notice the difference anyway.

1 minute ago, oelli said:

Let's give the kids shit because they don't notice the difference anyway.

Why dont you put the rest of my post in where i say the opposite of that

35 minutes ago, Stillagamer said:

Okay enough with the damn Shark! Shark! LOL. Lets say youre 100% correct even though i seriously doubt it. 4 year old maybe. 7 year olds have big imaginations they like minecraft and things like that. My point is the hypothetical 7 year old doesnt care about the difference in a B- Shark! Shark!, and an A+ one. The only one who does is YOU. So wouldnt that time be better spent on making new IPs, beautiful games with beautiful soundtracks and unique Amico mechanics? I remember i played the Zelda game on the DS and i had to blow into the microphone to blow out a candle or make a windmill spin. Or games like Drawn to life that the Amico could do and more. Would you rather have your 7 year old playing something cool like that or would you force them to play games like they were "in the good old days"? The former right? In my opinion too much time and energy has been spent on the retro games and the lineup is lackluster as a result. With the team around this and the neat things about the Amico, thats inexcusable. And im helping out my brother Tommy by telling him the truth and waking him up from you retro cultists lmao

What makes you think Intellivision isn't making those kind of games? The retro reimagined games are just a part of the game lineup, not the whole thing. 

37 minutes ago, Stillagamer said:

Okay enough with the damn Shark! Shark! LOL. Lets say youre 100% correct even though i seriously doubt it. 4 year old maybe. 7 year olds have big imaginations they like minecraft and things like that. My point is the hypothetical 7 year old doesnt care about the difference in a B- Shark! Shark!, and an A+ one. The only one who does is YOU. So wouldnt that time be better spent on making new IPs, beautiful games with beautiful soundtracks and unique Amico mechanics? I remember i played the Zelda game on the DS and i had to blow into the microphone to blow out a candle or make a windmill spin. Or games like Drawn to life that the Amico could do and more. Would you rather have your 7 year old playing something cool like that or would you force them to play games like they were "in the good old days"? The former right? In my opinion too much time and energy has been spent on the retro games and the lineup is lackluster as a result. With the team around this and the neat things about the Amico, thats inexcusable. And im helping out my brother Tommy by telling him the truth and waking him up from you retro cultists lmao

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5 minutes ago, Stillagamer said:

Why dont you put the rest of my post in where i say the opposite of that

Because you basically only say one thing: The wrong games are developed for the Amico and you do not like them because they are old fashioned and not innovative. (But you have never ever played one).

30 minutes ago, Stillagamer said:

Okay enough with the damn Shark! Shark! LOL. Lets say youre 100% correct even though i seriously doubt it. 4 year old maybe. 7 year olds have big imaginations they like minecraft and things like that. My point is the hypothetical 7 year old doesnt care about the difference in a B- Shark! Shark!, and an A+ one. The only one who does is YOU. So wouldnt that time be better spent on making new IPs, beautiful games with beautiful soundtracks and unique Amico mechanics? I remember i played the Zelda game on the DS and i had to blow into the microphone to blow out a candle or make a windmill spin. Or games like Drawn to life that the Amico could do and more. Would you rather have your 7 year old playing something cool like that or would you force them to play games like they were "in the good old days"? The former right? In my opinion too much time and energy has been spent on the retro games and the lineup is lackluster as a result. With the team around this and the neat things about the Amico, thats inexcusable. And im helping out my brother Tommy by telling him the truth and waking him up from you retro cultists lmao

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Folks, I hope you all are doing well. Honestly, I do.

The passion this project has brought out of everyone in absolutely amazing.

My son is turning 6 soon. What he thinks is 'cool' differs in some cases to myself. Not always, mainly in taste of music. Y'know what he doesn't find cool? Like, at all? Assumption.

He does like Shark! Shark!. Hates it when the shark turns around just as he goes to bite the tail.

Also enjoys a game of chess every now and then. He's a very bright child.

Stillagamer, my fellow on this forum, I point this out not out of a sense of anger, but one of confusion. Your opinion is stated in such a way that makes me think you've some real insight to the market for children this age range. If so, then I'm sure your wealth of knowledge on the subject would be an absolute asset in this discussion. However, if you're experience is no greater than mine (parent, uncle), perhaps we might be best off putting the... tiniest bit of faith into the people who've been working on this project every day.

Not going to lie, there are some things that I don't necessarily agree with through this process. I don't know if the sports licenses, for instance, will turn out to be worth it with all of the confusion the world in 2020 has brought us. It seems the ongoing delay in the baseball season has also indefinitely delayed any early glimpses we could get into a baseball title for the Amico. This has me sad, as this looks to be the first console I'll be able to play baseball with my father on since the Genesis (in all honesty, he didn't much care for the Genesis, but played because we played). With that said, I've never launched a game, or a console, or been CEO of a company. I've never worked at NASA, or headed a Disney toy line. The list goes on, but my point is simple: you have to trust in the people, and the process. They've done well with what I've seen so far, for what weight my opinion may carry.

In closing, I would like to reiterate my sincere wishes that all is well with everyone.

51 minutes ago, Intellivision Master said:

This is tonight at 9pm.

Thanks for the quick post!  I’ll be on tonight, I promised no novels.. it’s pretty open format and I know the crew has everything under the sun covered, but will try to add in some less discussed points.

23 minutes ago, GrumpyOl'Guy said:

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Folks, I hope you all are doing well. Honestly, I do.

 

The passion this project has brought out of everyone in absolutely amazing.

 

My son is turning 6 soon. What he thinks is 'cool' differs in some cases to myself. Not always, mainly in taste of music. Y'know what he doesn't find cool? Like, at all? Assumption.

He does like Shark! Shark!. Hates it when the shark turns around just as he goes to bite the tail.

Also enjoys a game of chess every now and then. He's a very bright child.

 

Stillagamer, my fellow on this forum, I point this out not out of a sense of anger, but one of confusion. Your opinion is stated in such a way that makes me think you've some real insight to the market for children this age range. If so, then I'm sure your wealth of knowledge on the subject would be an absolute asset in this discussion. However, if you're experience is no greater than mine (parent, uncle), perhaps we might be best off putting the... tiniest bit of faith into the people who've been working on this project every day.

 

Not going to lie, there are some things that I don't necessarily agree with through this process. I don't know if the sports licenses, for instance, will turn out to be worth it with all of the confusion the world in 2020 has brought us. It seems the ongoing delay in the baseball season has also indefinitely delayed any early glimpses we could get into a baseball title for the Amico. This has me sad, as this looks to be the first console I'll be able to play baseball with my father on since the Genesis (in all honesty, he didn't much care for the Genesis, but played because we played). With that said, I've never launched a game, or a console, or been CEO of a company. I've never worked at NASA, or headed a Disney toy line. The list goes on, but my point is simple: you have to trust in the people, and the process. They've done well with what I've seen so far, for what weight my opinion may carry.

 

In closing, I would like to reiterate my sincere wishes that all is well with everyone.

I appreciate the sentiment, but i think you missed my point. If your son loves Shark! Shark! from 1982, would he really care if the updated one wasnt the best it could possibly be? Im not insinuating your son is stupid (why are people putting words in my mouth?). You want some insight into what kids actually like these days? My magical "wealth of knowledge" (sarcasm was noted)? Aside from the fact i have a lot of nieces and nephews and my family finds any excuse to get together all the time, just look at the sales of games. Without looking i can tell you Minecraft is the best selling game of all time. And without looking im going to say the Nintendo DS is the best selling video game console of all time. And the 3DS is probably up there as well. Ive already said enough, but lets not pretend the majority of kids wants an update to Shark! Shark! more than they want to play something that offers a novel experience and gets their imagination going. Most parents dont even know what it is.

10 minutes ago, Stillagamer said:

I appreciate the sentiment, but i think you missed my point. If your son loves Shark! Shark! from 1982, would he really care if the updated one wasnt the best it could possibly be? Im not insinuating your son is stupid (why are people putting words in my mouth?). You want some insight into what kids actually like these days? My magical "wealth of knowledge" (sarcasm was noted)? Aside from the fact i have a lot of nieces and nephews and my family finds any excuse to get together all the time, just look at the sales of games. Without looking i can tell you Minecraft is the best selling game of all time. And without looking im going to say the Nintendo DS is the best selling video game console of all time. And the 3DS is probably up there as well. Ive already said enough, but lets not pretend the majority of kids wants an update to Shark! Shark! more than they want to play something that offers a novel experience and gets their imagination going. Most parents dont even know what it is.

Thank you for letting me know. It's good to have people like you around. Please, allow me to learn more. I... must learn... your ways...

That, my fine friend, was sarcasm. When I employ it, it cannot be mistaken. Let's not pretend you didn't Google your examples in this post.

7 hours ago, GrudgeQ said:

Most controllers don't have a touch screen/pad or rotating disk, the two main inputs of the Amico. The games simply aren't going to be setup to use a D-Pad or joystick inputs and mapping & play testing those inputs would be a lot of extra work just to support a more conventional controller. I am not against a Amico 'Pro Controller' some day but I would say lets get the regular controller out there and see if there is even a need or interest in such a thing.

This is a good point. I was a big Wii U fan and started to notice soon after the Wii U pro controller got momentum the motion games went away and Nintendo had to compete with 2 other stronger systems playing ordinary games like Call of Duty. The games like Star Fox and Zombie U were really the angle design for the system and were swept aside after the pro controller came out. I saw this with the dragon flying game Lair on ps3 that utilized the six-axis and gyro control (soon after a patch came out that enabled analog control). It became generic and mediocre. We also saw this with Fight Night boxing game that used just the analog sticks to punch - sound cool and challenging? - yeah the mass majority complained so the devs made an update that allowed buttons to punch and negated the whole experience. This is why I'm so excited for some change. We are long due for it. 😎🤘

5 minutes ago, GrumpyOl'Guy said:

Thank you for letting me know. It's good to have people like you around. Please, allow me to learn more. I... must learn... your ways...

 

That, my fine friend, was sarcasm. When I employ it, it cannot be mistaken. Let's not pretend you didn't Google your examples in this post.

You know what everyone hates? Assumptions. No i actually didnt google anything and im sure many people who follow the gaming industry could give you the same answers. Thanks for calling me a liar though, your true colors came out pretty easily!

1 minute ago, Stillagamer said:

You know what everyone hates? Assumptions. No i actually didnt google anything and im sure many people who follow the gaming industry could give you the same answers. Thanks for calling me a liar though, your true colors came out pretty easily!

I see I've wounded you on an emotional level. For this I am sorry. At no point did I intend to hurt you in any way, shape or form.

Please, take some time. Enjoy the little things in life. Those can be the most fulfilling.

Seiously, hope all is well. I've nothing more to say. I'll bow to your expertise, no sarcasm necessary.

Now, as I've gone far too long down this path with nothing productive to add to the discussion - has there been any talks with Lego in regards to a game? Not anything tying into a franchise, such as a Lego Batman, for instance. Rather, with Lego for an edutainment title. Reading the instructions, building the kits. Schools around here actually do these as teams. Thought it might be a fun idea. Having it on a console that's very accommodating to multiplayer would make this a natural fit, in my humble opinion.

3 minutes ago, GrumpyOl'Guy said:

I see I've wounded you on an emotional level. For this I am sorry. At no point did I intend to hurt you in any way, shape or form.

Please, take some time. Enjoy the little things in life. Those can be the most fulfilling.

 

Seiously, hope all is well. I've nothing more to say. I'll bow to your expertise, no sarcasm necessary.

 

Now, as I've gone far too long down this path with nothing productive to add to the discussion - has there been any talks with Lego in regards to a game? Not anything tying into a franchise, such as a Lego Batman, for instance. Rather, with Lego for an edutainment title. Reading the instructions, building the kits. Schools around here actually do these as teams. Thought it might be a fun idea. Having it on a console that's very accommodating to multiplayer would make this a natural fit, in my humble opinion.

Hey man no harm done!. If anything it warms my heart seeing a grown man be so stand up and honest when presenting their views. Its hard to find in this day and age where people use anonymity to be passive aggressive with each other! Its so easy to make veiled attacks and feign positivity at the same time. I see life has taught you much humility, and its something im going to take away from this interaction and apply to my every day life from now on. You should write a series of books on how to be passive aggressive positive in these troublesome times.

2 minutes ago, Stillagamer said:

Hey man no harm done!. If anything it warms my heart seeing a grown man be so stand up and honest when presenting their views. Its hard to find in this day and age where people use anonymity to be passive aggressive with each other! Its so easy to make veiled attacks and feign positivity at the same time. I see life has taught you much humility, and its something im going to take away from this interaction and apply to my every day life from now on. You should write a series of books on how to be passive aggressive positive in these troublesome times.

If I might indulge you for a minute, of the announced games, are there any you're looking forward to?

1 hour ago, Stillagamer said:

So wouldnt that time be better spent on making new IPs, beautiful games with beautiful soundtracks and unique Amico 

And that is what they are doing, only a small part are “re-imagined” games, but most of them will be simple and family oriented, and I think that is what you don’t like. Maybe when you get kids yourself you will appreciate it. 

2 hours ago, Stillagamer said:

Would you rather have your 7 year old playing something cool like that or would you force them to play games like they were "in the good old days"? The former right?

I’m starting to get the feeling you are 13-14 years old, right? 

7 minutes ago, theswede said:

And that is what they are doing, only a small part are “re-imagined” games, but most of them will be simple and family oriented, and I think that is what you don’t like.

No i dont care if a game is simple or family oriented, and i dont care if retro games get remade. I already told you what i thought, if you want to go back and read one of the million times ive repeated myself you have the ability to do so. And since youre dipping your toe into the insult waters, look man, i dont really care about you or what you think in your tiny bubble of existence. Dont get upset when someone has a different opinion than yours. I think the people on this forum are more excited for the amico than their kids are because the games that have been shown so far cater to people raised in the 70s. From the party games to the retro games, lets not pretend the kids are dying for this. I want to see the good games because im a fan of games. No that doesnt make me a teenager, thats such a stupid thing to say. You collect video games its not like your a bastion of maturity. You might love all the games that were shown, thats cool. I expected more, a lot more. Thats all there is to it. I hope Tommy and his team delivers, and i really hope he spends less time listening to a bunch of guys stuck in a time where calculators were all the rage.

3 hours ago, oelli said:

You just want your Atari and Intellivision games to come back in all their glory, to the applause of like 50 people on Atari Age. Come on man. Youll get what you want. Im more interested in the potential of this thing and its much greater than retro! Party console sure. This could be better and nobody here will give good feedback because youre already getting what you want. I dont want anything out of the Amico im just giving my honest opinion. Yeah it hurts. F the market research. If i make a massage chair i bet the data will show me that old men will like it.

You seem to not realize that these retro games and the amico itself taps into a giant rich demographic currently being ignored by the rest of the industry.  Grandparents arent the out of touch tech people anymore, we are the ORIGINAL VIDEO GAMERS.  Over 50 crowd is in the US alone 70 million strong with a lot of us with money to spare. You would be nuts not to tap this demo. To be honest, I think we will turn out to be the honey hole for Amico/Intellivision.  So yeah, remakes may seem not worthwile to you,  but go crunch the numbers, financially it makes a hell of a lot of sense.  

16 minutes ago, Stillagamer said:

I hope Tommy and his team delivers, and i really hope he spends less time listening to a bunch of guys stuck in a time where calculators were all the rage.

You mean the 70 million over 50 market demo currently being ignored, the same demo with more disposable income and wealth and money then any other age demographic, you want Tommy to ignore that demo?  really?

3 minutes ago, bigdaddygamestudio said:

You seem to not realize that these retro games and the amico itself taps into a giant rich demographic currently being ignored by the rest of the industry.  Grandparents arent the out of touch tech people anymore, we are the ORIGINAL VIDEO GAMERS.  Over 50 crowd is in the US alone 70 million strong with a lot of us with money to spare. You would be nuts not to tap this demo. To be honest, I think we will turn out to be the honey hole for Amico/Intellivision.  So yeah, remakes may seem not worthwile to you,  but go crunch the numbers, financially it makes a hell of a lot of sense.  

I dont disagree with you. But this can be more than that. You guys used to entertain yourself with sticks lets be honest youll take anything you can get. The Ps2/xbox had Atari era arcade "greatest hits" im sure they sold well. That doesnt mean thats all there was to offer. The Amico is built to have interactive experiences you guys arent familiar with or even like. I like the retro stuff too, but if thats the main or second priority this thing is going to be a waste of potential. Also dont say honey hole ever again