Independent Amico Discussion Thread

[roots.genoa]

7 hours ago, m-crew said:

This thread in my opinion has more intent to it then to have a civil conversation or discussion.

 

3 hours ago, Papy said:

Having said that, it's clear there are people posting here who have a personal agenda.

Ok, you guys won. Except for both of you (and a few other), we are all part of a secret cult that sacrifice kittens on week ends so that Amico fails and Tommy Tallarico is sent to an island where he will be eaten alive by angry VCS backers. We tried to hide our agenda with "constructive criticism" but you are so paran clever you managed to see through us.

 

Now seriously, I agree that some people here are a little agressive, lack a little empathy and even honesty, but I really don't see how some of us would have any "personal agenda". It's not like any of us can have any impact on Amico's future anyway.

Edited February 21, 2020 by roots.genoa

[m-crew]

10 minutes ago, roots.genoa said:

 

Ok, you guys won. Except for both of you (and a few other), we are all part of a secret cult that sacrifice kittens on week ends so that Amico fails and Tommy Tallarico is sent to an island where he will be eaten alive by angry VCS backers. We tried to hide our agenda with "constructive criticism" but you are so paran clever you managed to see through us.

 

Now seriously, I agree that some people here are a little agressive, lack a little empathy and even honesty, but I really don't see how some of use would have any "personal agenda". It's not like any of us can have any impact on Amico's future anyway.

Deflecting brother deflecting ,who said and pointed a finger at you and who is us you speak of. lol  "except for both of you(and a few others)"lmao !!!!!  Those who are know what they are doing and really the community know who they are as well buy how and what they post .. 

Edited February 21, 2020 by m-crew

[m-crew]

not worth it....

Edited February 21, 2020 by m-crew

[roots.genoa]

Ok now you're frightening me. 😕

[Papy]

15 minutes ago, roots.genoa said:

 

Ok, you guys won. Except for both of you (and a few other), we are all part of a secret cult that sacrifice kittens on week ends so that Amico fails and Tommy Tallarico is sent to an island where he will be eaten alive by angry VCS backers. We tried to hide our agenda with "constructive criticism" but you are so paran clever you managed to see through us.

 

Here's what I said :

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Therefore I have a bias to defend and, to some degree, an agenda to promote the console.

 

We all want to defend what we believe in. We all are biased. We all have our little agendas.

 

Do you think you are an exception?

 

[ColecoJoe]

1 minute ago, Papy said:

 

Here's what I said :

 

We all want to defend what we believe in. We all are biased. We all have our little agendas.

 

Do you think you are an exception?

 

Good thing this is a discussion board to you know ... have discussions on

 

 

[roots.genoa]

9 minutes ago, Papy said:

Do you think you are an exception?

Well, maybe not indeed.

For now I'm neither completely sold nor do I "hate" Amico. I like the concept very much, but I'm disappointed for the lack of pixelart (for now, I know Tommy is not against it but doesn't want to confuse people with the fact that Amico is not a retro console). I'm very excited for Night Stalker, but Astrosmash... not so much. ^^' But most of all I need to actually play the games to decide if I'll preorder.

So my "little agenda" would be... trying to convince others to have a more nuanced opinion like mine?

[roots.genoa]

31 minutes ago, m-crew said:

"except for both of you(and a few others)"lmao

The first part of my post was supposed to be funny so thank you, I guess.

[jaybird3rd]

I think it's time for "m-crew" to take a break from this thread.

[MrBeefy]

23 minutes ago, ColecoJoe said:

Good thing this is a discussion board to you know ... have discussions on

Wait. We discuss things here? Surely not! Sounds like a conspiracy! We know you lead double lives in the gaming world. The VCS supporters are still suffering from you last insider hit on Atari.

 

 

[MrBeefy]

27 minutes ago, roots.genoa said:

Well, maybe not indeed.

For now I'm neither completely sold nor do I "hate" Amico. I like the concept very much, but I'm disappointed for the lack of pixelart (for now, I know Tommy is not against it but doesn't want to confuse people with the fact that Amico is not a retro console). I'm very excited for Night Stalker, but Astrosmash... not so much. ^^' But most of all I need to actually play the games to decide if I'll preorder.

So my "little agenda" would be... trying to convince others to have a more nuanced opinion like mine?

I was way more sold before the price creep. I haven't written it off as a purchase, but it has gone from a no brainer buy to a maybe.

 

Like you Astrosmash didn't do anything for me. I'm curious to see Cornhole (Assuming it's a launch or pack in). Night Stalker was borderline too much going on. Moon Patrol seems fun for the short amount seen.

 

What are you hoping to see more of?

[+Razzie.P]

43 minutes ago, roots.genoa said:

I like the concept very much, but I'm disappointed for the lack of pixelart (for now, I know Tommy is not against it but doesn't want to confuse people with the fact that Amico is not a retro console).

 

I must have missed that bit in previous discussions, or maybe just forgotten -- but it would be a shame for a console's fanbase to miss out on games like Undertale, Owlboy, and Shovel Knight.  Not those specific titles, of course, just thinking of how "pixelart" can be used create some beautiful titles that invokes a nice, nostalgic retro period without being confused for "just some old game."

[JeffVav]

7 hours ago, Tommy Tallarico said:

Does Nintendo release it's old games on XBOX?

Curiously the reverse is true. 

[MrBeefy]

42 minutes ago, malrak said:

I must have missed that bit in previous discussions, or maybe just forgotten -- but it would be a shame for a console's fanbase to miss out on games like Undertale, Owlboy, and Shovel Knight.  Not those specific titles, of course, just thinking of how "pixelart" can be used create some beautiful titles that invokes a nice, nostalgic retro period without being confused for "just some old game."

I don't think they are shunning pixel art. I just know they aren't wanting it to be thought as a retro machine.

[+Swami]

1 hour ago, malrak said:

 

I must have missed that bit in previous discussions, or maybe just forgotten -- but it would be a shame for a console's fanbase to miss out on games like Undertale, Owlboy, and Shovel Knight.  Not those specific titles, of course, just thinking of how "pixelart" can be used create some beautiful titles that invokes a nice, nostalgic retro period without being confused for "just some old game."

I'm curious, do the PS4, XBone or Switch have any brand new titles that are Atari 2600/ColecoVision pixel art or is it all Nintendo-ish NES/SNES retro?

[Papy]

2 hours ago, roots.genoa said:

So my "little agenda" would be... trying to convince others to have a more nuanced opinion like mine?

To my suggestion that we all are biased and therefore we all have our little agendas, you wrote a sarcastic response based on an insinuation that m-crew and I were nutcases believing in ridiculous conspiracy theories.

 

Do you think it's an appropriate response from someone whose agenda is to try to convince others to have a more nuanced opinion?

 

I'm not trying to start a flame war. I hate drama. This is in part why I took a break from here. However, I still think your response was not very nice.

 

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Back to the important subject, as I already said, all the game demos that I saw up to now left me with a "meh" impression. Not because of the graphics, unlike you I don't care much about graphics, but because of the lack of visible interactions.

 

I know those "demos" were just teasers, most probably from alpha versions of the games, so it didn't kill my hopes one bit. It's too bad I opened my email concerning the founder edition only late at night, because despite the "meh" impression, I would still have pre-ordered it.

 

So yes, I will never deny that I'm biased (and I explained why in one of my previous posts). However, despite my bias, I do think it is rational from me to view the criticism of the controllers that are posted again and again as without merit (and I also explained why in another of my previous post).

 

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OK. I'm kind of naughty so... From your point of view, do I sound like someone rational? Or do you still think I'm paranoid?

 

Edit : Yes, I can be an asshole. However don't worry, I never hold a grudge for more than 24 hours.

Edited February 22, 2020 by Papy

[Steven Pendleton]

34 minutes ago, Swami said:

I'm curious, do the PS4, XBone or Switch have any brand new titles that are Atari 2600/ColecoVision pixel art or is it all Nintendo-ish NES/SNES retro?

I know there is one that's actually ZX Spectrum style, but I played the demo and it wasn't anything special. Let me see if I can find it.

 

Edit: Deep Ones

Edited February 22, 2020 by Steven Pendleton

[+Lathe26]

6 hours ago, roots.genoa said:

... we are all part of a secret cult that sacrifice kittens on week ends so that Amico fails ...

Can some cult member mail me a fresh box of kittens?  The pet store is getting suspicious.  

[ColecoJoe]

2 minutes ago, Lathe26 said:

Can some cult member mail me a fresh box of kittens?  The pet store is getting suspicious.  

Wait, we’re doing kittens now? I knew I shouldn’t have missed the last black mass!

[MrBeefy]

6 minutes ago, ColecoJoe said:

Wait, we’re doing kittens now? I knew I shouldn’t have missed the last black mass!

You have to keep up with the times, we've missed you.

 

Also I'm not sure any box of kittens could be considered 'Fresh' if mailed.

[Steven Pendleton]

18 minutes ago, Lathe26 said:

Can some cult member mail me a fresh box of kittens?  The pet store is getting suspicious.  

I totally read that as a request to "melt" you a fresh box of kittens.

 

So yeah, on topic, who besides me is excited for Sonic and maybe Worms on Amico? Seeing an Amico-exclusive Sonic Mania 2 would be very interesting.

[roots.genoa]

8 hours ago, MrBeefy said:

What are you hoping to see more of?

Good question. I've never owned an Intellivision or an Atari 2600. I started with an Atari ST then a Master System. But I'm very curious, I love gaming as a whole (board games as well), so I'm quite open to everything if it's fun and (sometimes) if it has an original/interesting art style. And since my elder brother used to be a sore loser as a child, I always prefered coop (beat 'em up is my favorite genre, but figthing games not so much ^^). I've got tons of coop games on my Switch but nobody to play with... Like I explained on the other thread a long time ago, I really miss the asymetric gameplay of the Wii U that could be perfect for playing with my nephew and my niece - when they were little. Now my nephew plays Fortnite on his own Switch...

6 hours ago, Swami said:

I'm curious, do the PS4, XBone or Switch have any brand new titles that are Atari 2600/ColecoVision pixel art or is it all Nintendo-ish NES/SNES retro?

Yes, as someone said above, there are a few games with ZX Spectrum style for instance. There are also games like Mutand Mudds, Elena's Temple, and Life of Pixel with a lot of different visual styles based on different systems. Unfortunately, Atari 2600 or ColecoVision's styles are not that popular right now, but it has nothing to do with current consoles I think; you don't find them a lot on PC either.

6 hours ago, Papy said:

To my suggestion that we all are biased and therefore we all have our little agendas, you wrote a sarcastic response based on an insinuation that m-crew and I were nutcases believing in ridiculous conspiracy theories.

I'm sorry for that. To be honest, I was in some kind of hurry to answer m-crew (I was several posts behind) and I didn't read your post entirely. 😟 I just wanted to post that thing about kittens that I thought about for a while. I try to practice English by posting jokes, but most of the times they get ignored. ^^'

Anyway, my real personal but no-so-hidden agenda is not to convince anyone or anything. I run a retrogaming news web site and try to get better info than most journalists from mainstream media.

Edited February 22, 2020 by roots.genoa

[digdugnate]

17 hours ago, Tommy Tallarico said:

What is the wrong signal?  Does Nintendo release it's old games on XBOX?

 

Yes, in a way, MS/Rare did with the 'Rare Replay' compilation.

[roots.genoa]

2 hours ago, digdugnate said:

Yes, in a way, MS/Rare did with the 'Rare Replay' compilation.

Indeed.

Not exactly the same situation but the Disney Afternoon Collection by Digital Eclipse was released on everything but Switch, even though it included NES games only. -_-

[mr_me]

Do any of those nes games include those that belong to nintendo?  What differences does it make?  Their position is they rather not have their games played with thumbstick controllers.  If someone else wants to release a collection of Imagic or Activision Intellivision games there's not much stopping them.

Edited February 22, 2020 by mr_me