Intellivision Amico - Tommy Tallarico introduction + Q&A

11 minutes ago, bigdaddygamestudio said:

I think a known popular comedian would be a great way to go. Someone older but still well liked who is old enough to remember the original intellivision etc.  . I mean someone like Rob Riggle would make the whole thing so much fun.  Just spit balling, but Im sure you guys have friends and/or friends of friends who knows  etc    Doesnt everyone in Hollywood know everyone else  /s

What's Paul Rudd up to these days?  Everyone likes him and he has to be old enough...  HOLY HELL!  Paul Rudd is 51?? Do some people just not age?

5 minutes ago, vongruetz said:

What's Paul Rudd up to these days?  Everyone likes him and he has to be old enough...  HOLY HELL!  Paul Rudd is 51?? Do some people just not age?

I really enjoyed this skit he did on SNL.

LOL

TJ

1 hour ago, vongruetz said:

Here's an example of an open-minded gamer who will totally embrace Amico when it comes out.

 

Or, as Tommy said, humans are weird.

 

This person seems fun.

1 hour ago, GrudgeQ said:

Now, now just because someone is a pathological liar, only interesting in a vain attempt to validate himself as a 'journalist' and a pathetic excuse for a human being doesn't mean he should come to violence. Really you can't let them get to you, they are trying to drive away people and discussion by creating a toxic atmosphere. Don't let these little back biting parasites win.

You are right. I apologize to the forum. There is no need for this behavior. I just don't understand some person's negativity over something that has no bearing on their lives. 

58 minutes ago, bigdaddygamestudio said:

I think a known popular comedian would be a great way to go. Someone older but still well liked who is old enough to remember the original intellivision etc.  . I mean someone like Rob Riggle would make the whole thing so much fun.  Just spit balling, but Im sure you guys have friends and/or friends of friends who knows  etc    Doesnt everyone in Hollywood know everyone else  /s

 

One good thing, everyone is available right now. 

I wish Don Rickles was still around.

1 hour ago, vongruetz said:

If being a gamer means you can "easily put 300+ (hours) in all of our games" then I definitely don't want to be considered one. Maybe it's just me, but as an adult, I don't have that much time to play games.  Nor would I want to.  Games are a form of entertainment, they're not the reason for living.

As a life time gamer, it took me years of buying complex games like Zelda , final fantasy etc as an adult with a wife and kids to realize that I’m not a kid anymore with tons of time to spare. Since I have a family, when I have time  to play games I want to share the experience with them. It took buying many expensive games that I desperately wanted to play but never the time to commit to them to realize this. It was an expensive lesson ! Lol .... So the Amico is perfect since I always have time for a quick game of bowling 🎳 on the Wii. I only have time for casual pick up and play games at this point in my life. No time for a game I play alone that take 50 hrs + to complete. Ahhhh to be a teenager with nothing but time ! Those were the days ! 

14 hours ago, Blarneo said:

Wait!!!! 

Have us on roller skates in a useless nightclub built by some bad actor for no reason.

We Have to Believe We Are Magic!

Wow  Xanadu reference..   A guilty pleasure. And I cannot explain why I like it so much. 

Does anyone have any guilty pleasures with any bad movies or games out there?

I'll Start -

Movie - I like both versions of Overboard. - Double whammy there. I could go on. I like LOTS of bad movies.

Game - Many Many...  I'll give you two - Superman for the 2600.  Or Way of the Warrior for the 3DO.

17 hours ago, Tommy Tallarico said:

We are doing a live stream on Monday and I'm going to reveal something about the controller and "buttons" that I was going to save for E3... but I think I'll do it on Monday. 

 

 

My apologies for the dumb question but  Is there a way for me to be notified whenever you do a live stream?  I feel like I'm missing out on some stuff. ✌️

56 minutes ago, vongruetz said:

What's Paul Rudd up to these days?  Everyone likes him and he has to be old enough...  HOLY HELL!  Paul Rudd is 51?? Do some people just not age?

I always had a big crush on Paul. He's total 80s!

Really like this retrogaming guy.

Amico is on a mission. ( Not only one ! )

No blood, no Sex, no violence, couch co-op and versus, better visibility for developers, no DLC etc.

And revive several game genres ...  😀

6 minutes ago, LePionnier said:

Really like this retrogaming guy.

 

Amico is on a mission. ( Not only one ! )

No blood, no Sex, no violence, couch co-op and versus, better visibility for developers, no DLC etc.

And revive several game genres ...  😀

Well, also no barrels tripping up plumbers. Kind of a poor box choice for the right hand there.

4 hours ago, Tommy Tallarico said:

Having a live stream is really the only option... but if I can get a big celebrity that could help.

I see no real benefit for a live stream over a pre-recorded video.  If desired, the pre-recorded video could have a live-stream feel to it but like others have said, keeps it feeling polished and professional.

As for celebrities, since you are targeting young families, I think it would be great to get celebrities with young children.  I'm thinking someone like Dax Shepard and Kristen Bell who are famous actors but also well respected in the parenting community.  Not sure what their views would be on video game consoles but I think having them talk about IE's SAFE values would be great.  Of course I have no idea how expensive they would be to get but maybe if they had a chance to plug their Hello Bello brand or a charity they support?  

11 hours ago, roots.genoa said:

That kind of behaviour doesn't turn me or other AA members into Amico haters because there's no logical reason for that, but it sure doesn't help being 'positive'.

- Was it positivity when IntelliMission accused CurlyQ (and someone else before) of being Flojomojo's second account?

- Was it positivity when MrBeefy's girlfriend was accused of being imaginary?

- Was it positivtiy when m-crew claimed that there was some kind of mysterious 'leader' (of what?) here?

- Was it positivity when 1001lives answered to me by claiming again that every AA member banned from this thread regularly posts mean comments on Pat & Ian videos without any proof?

And I have never seen any apologies.

I'm sorry if this is blunt, but seriously ... these are the kinds of playground-level insults that these schoolgirls have been in such a righteous snit about for months???  If I were on the receiving end of that kind of treatment—which I have been, and worse—there's probably an 80% chance that I would simply shrug it off as harmless hot air from a blowhard who isn't worth my attention.  If it were something that really steamed me, I would simply contact the person directly and say "You know, I'm a little upset about something you said, I'd like to talk about it."  That's the kind of conflict avoidance and resolution that Real Live Grownups™ practice all the time.

What have these children chosen to do instead?  They've continued to sullenly slink around in these threads at all hours of the day and night, carefully cataloging every (real or imagined) gripe and insult, nursing grudges over them for months on end, as they persist in posting their little passive-aggressive quips and barbs at every opportunity.  The pettiness and malice of these people knows no earthly bounds.  As I've said before, the Internet must be an unbearable hellstew of horrors for anyone who's triggered into such a bad case of Global Thermonuclear Butthurt over something so insignificant and trifling—especially at times such as these, when we should all have much more important things to worry about.

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I know at least one (their name starts with an F and rhymes with 'taco') and told them several times I disapproved (they were banned for suggesting you to become an AA subscriber by the way 🤔).

I know exactly who you're referring to, and that is a blatantly dishonest representation of what happened.  Why on earth would any of us ban anyone merely for suggesting that someone should become an AtariAge subscriber?  Subscriptions help to keep the lights on around here, literally and figuratively; we love our subscribers, and we always welcome more.  That "explanation" is so illogical on its face that anyone genuinely interested in finding out what really happened—and who isn't just out to collect negative talking points—should immediately question it.

(For anyone who is interested, this particular member was given second chances, and let back into this and other Amico-related threads, multiple times.  They "suggested" that Tommy should become a subscriber as a veiled insult and an insinuation that Tommy was just a freeloader who was out to get free advertising here, something that would be clear if you saw the exchange in context.  The exchange escalated from there, and spread into other areas of the forums, until the member had to be blocked again.  The "suggestion," such that it was, was only part of a much bigger picture, and not even the part which precipitated the action.)

As I've said a million times before, the few people who have had to be blocked from these threads—and there have been less than a dozen out of the ~260 members who have posted here—were blocked because of their repeated bad behavior.  That's it.  Not because of their point of view, not for refusing to drink someone's Kool-Aid, not for "daring to ask too many questions," and certainly not merely for "suggesting that someone should become a subscriber," no matter how noisily they might continue to insist otherwise.  If anyone is genuinely interested in any specific cases, feel free to contact me directly and I can give you the exact reasons why they were blocked—every case was documented in detail, and no decision was made without the consensus of the moderating team.

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I'm just saying a lot more of them were attacked for no good reason. They probably posted bacon pictures and funny stuff because they were afraid everything they posted would be scrutinized as a proof of some secret evil agenda against Amico. Well, they probably shouldn't have since they were still suspected anyway.

Well, I'm sorry if any innocent individuals were caught up in anyone's sweeping generalizations, but taken as a whole, the collective behavior of the people we're talking about has been atrociously awful and immature from the beginning.  Theirs is not the behavior of genuinely well-meaning people who have legitimate grievances.  Even in cases where those grievances may have started out as legitimate, they chose to handle it so unbelievably poorly that as far as I'm concerned, they've ruined whatever credibility they had and thereby forfeited the courtesy of being given the benefit of the doubt.  If anyone wants to avoid being lumped in with the jerks, they should simply refrain from behaving like a jerk, and they'll probably be fine.

2 hours ago, GrudgeQ said:

Really you can't let them get to you, they are trying to drive away people and discussion by creating a toxic atmosphere. Don't let these little back biting parasites win.

That's my attitude as well.  I won't claim that anyone who would create this much drama and negativity about a video game console like the Amico must be clinically insane, but at the very least, it's clear that their priorities in life are way out of whack.  I don't think we should allow them or their deranged obsessions to sideline the conversation here any further.

31 minutes ago, jaybird3rd said:

the Internet must be an unbearable hellstew of horrors for anyone who's triggered into such a bad case of Global Thermonuclear Butthurt

Kudos to @jaybird3rd for figuring out the 6th pack-in game!

11 hours ago, roots.genoa said:

I was not talking about you versus Pat & Ian, but several AtariAge members like myself were attacked for absolutely no reason except unjustified paranoia. I was blamed ("Stop being part of the problem") for watching videos I have never watched! Actually, the only one I watched was the ReviewTechUSA one and I completely agree with him (except for his 'concern' about Earthworm Jim but to be fair, I think he was just trying to prove he was not a shill).

 

That kind of behaviour doesn't turn me or other AA members into Amico haters because there's no logical reason for that, but it sure doesn't help being 'positive'.

- Was it positivity when IntelliMission accused CurlyQ (and someone else before) of being Flojomojo's second account?

- Was it positivity when MrBeefy's girlfriend was accused of being imaginary?

- Was it positivtiy when m-crew claimed that there was some kind of mysterious 'leader' (of what?) here?

- Was it positivity when 1001lives answered to me by claiming again that every AA member banned from this thread regularly posts mean comments on Pat & Ian videos without any proof?

And I have never seen any apologies.

 

I'm not denying a few AA members have become haters and hold a stupid grudge against you - I know at least one (their name starts with an F and rhymes with 'taco') and told them several times I disapproved (they were banned for suggesting you to become an AA subscriber by the way 🤔).

I'm just saying a lot more of them were attacked for no good reason. They probably posted bacon pictures and funny stuff because they were afraid everything they posted would be scrutinized as a proof of some secret evil agenda against Amico. Well, they probably shouldn't have since they were still suspected anyway. 😑

 

Thank you

 

 

(I'd also like to remind you it took me more than half an hour to type that since it's not my native language)

I wanted to jump in, in case one of those points on the, uh, brand of positivity was referencing a comment I'd made?  And am apologizing if so, for wording it poorly.  I take efforts not to directly insult anyone on this thread, or anyone who cannot defend themselves in this thread - in the issue of fairness - it's unceremonious to speak ill of somebody without their ability to punch back, so to speak.  I try to critique some of Pat and Ian's statements, since they're comfortable using their podcast and social media as platforms to make general critiques of this forum without any equal access or retort, so to speak.  And since this is an open forum for either to read, engage as they see fit.  Their platform changes that dynamic.

But concerning an imaginary girlfriend, was it the reference below?  If so, I wasn't aware that this would be presumed to be about a member - I was going for generic teenage trope here - alluding to a stereotype and an exaggerated retort.  If this was taken as anything but, I'll take responsibility for my wording here, maybe poor taste, and apologize up front.  I disagree with a few people's opinions here, but I find this thread to be quite amicable and the posters opinions respected without exception.  Well, there's been a couple exceptions in the last 400 pages.  3 out of tens of thousands. 

I would agree with you that there are comments and general themes that I wouldn't label as "positive".  I think in any community - and this little corner of AtariAge is itself a sub-community - there's a certain amount of insider/outsider dynamic, tendencies to group think and the occasional negative vibe discussion.  I would suggest it's less here than most community-oriented corners of the internet I've visited, but my opinion's pretty subjective.  Not opposed to a group reminder to keep it civil and respectful, especially re: dissenting opinions.  You're all good people. 

4 minutes ago, Tommy Tallarico said:

 

Kudos to @jaybird3rd for figuring out the 6th pack-in game!

 

 

::runs through 4.7 million varied simulations of Global Thermonuclear Butthurt::

"Funny game.  The only way to win is to clench ones' cheeks.  How about a nice game of Cornhole, Professor Faulken?"

1 hour ago, poconojo said:

You are right. I apologize to the forum. There is no need for this behavior. I just don't understand some person's negativity over something that has no bearing on their lives. 

Being a fan of a console is normal and healthy. Being an obsessed hater of a console is a personality disorder. 

5 hours ago, 1001lives said:

There's no way to prove it but several other commentors also mention the "footbath" and it only popped up on Pat and Ian's videos after that discussion started on here.

I personally love the design of Amico but to be fair, I've seen the footbath comparison recently on my (French) web site Facebook page and I'm pretty confident it was from someone who never was here or watched Ian & Pat stuff... ^^

13 minutes ago, RetroAdvisoryBoard said:

I wanted to jump in, in case one of those points on the, uh, brand of positivity was referencing a comment I'd made?  And am apologizing if so, for wording it poorly.

No, I don't think you were ever agressive (even though to be honest, I don't always have time to read your riveting posts 😅). But I guarantee you several members claimed MrBeefy's wife doesn't exist, because they think it's him that finds Amico too expensive, not her.

5 minutes ago, Swami said:

Being a fan of a console is normal and healthy

Even being a Switch fan? 😅 (which I'm not by the way, I'm a 3DS fan)

So this troll came by my stream to talk smack. He's also been spewing blatant lies about the Amico on his channel. Figured I'd give him a taste of his own medicine...

21 minutes ago, Tommy Tallarico said:

Kudos to @jaybird3rd for figuring out the 6th pack-in game!

I am so ready!

A couple of necessary revelations:

- I apologize to @CurlyQ , he appeared just after @Guy was banned and I thought it was (another) troll. However, Guy was banned after I reported his account to the mods. He was the second account of one of the users banned from this thread. I don't know exactly who the actual user is, but, judging by the 40 line messages saying wonders about mobile games, assuming that Amico games are an expensive version of them, and the way he mocked @RetroAdvisoryBoard's message that (coincidentally) criticized modern games, it very well could be our Space Channel 5 friend. I assume the mods realized that two users were logged in with the same IP. This user created an account only to post in this topic and one of the first things he said was "Hey, remember when everyone was worried that Trump's tariffs for China were going to make Amico's price closer to that of a AAA console? And Tommy told everyone to chill da f* out". Yeah, you totally sound like a new user, bro. 😐

- A user who posted a single message (or very few messages) in the disaster that turned out to be the independent topic revealed this to me via PM when he accused some of the Amico haters in Atari Age of having an history of harassing people online over the years:

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Heya! I would rather not name names, but a look at the main "taco" thread in the 2600 forums, with an eye toward who the daily posters are there. That will give you a good idea.

 

While some of them have even contributed a lot over the years, in recent years some of the regulars have really started gatekeeping and shoving out differing opinions from the forums.  There is also an unfortunate history of harassment of industry figures in recent years who come here to reach out to us. In my mind this recent issue started when Bill Loguidice tried to reach out due to his work with At Games to improve the Flashback, and was eaten alive by people who have exceptionally negative emotions about the "new" Atari and At Games in general. The same thing happened in 2017 when Atari announced the VCS. When the Amico launched, it didn't initially draw their attention, but as you can see things have gotten bad again here.

 

It has been a real bummer in that these forums used to have a high level of technical talk and collector knowledge, but in recent years it has devolved into some real nasty stuff.

I know someone who tried to start a VCS Info and FAQ thread similar to the Amico one and had to abandon it due to harassment. A couple of the folks in the "taco thread" tracked down his personal facebook page and somehow convinced a group of people to send all sorts of awful stuff into his inbox, including porn, threats against his 8 year old child, and all sorts of Internet tough guy talk. This person had to stay off the forums for a while.

 

I hope this helps clarify things so people can see the whole picture. 👍

We're dealing with mentally unstable people here, capable of harassing others for months. This drama is starting to become tiring, but there should be no doubt as to which side you should choose. Spoilers: not the taco one.

11 minutes ago, roots.genoa said:

 No, I don't think you were ever agressive (even though to be honest, I don't always have time to read your riveting posts 😅).

Nobody does.  That's why I'm crowdfunding to secure Gilbert Gottfried to option my posts via Audible.com.  

I got you. 

24 minutes ago, roots.genoa said:

 

I personally love the design of Amico but to be fair, I've seen the footbath comparison recently on my (French) web site Facebook page and I'm pretty confident it was from someone who never was here or watched Ian & Pat stuff... ^^

Agreed, I had a line I drafted back in 2018 after the PRGE reveal about how it may look a lot more like a foot massager from Bed, Bath and Beyond or a Defibrillator that'll save grandpa in a pinch.. thought I was clever for about six minutes, and then the footbath/foot massager comments started popping up.  I think it's a fairly benign to see it and compare its form to more familiar objects, wouldn't put too much weight in further link - this takeaway is going to come up independently more than a few times.

It's a great design though.  Differentiated, deliberately not like we're used to seeing a console.  I like it.  And grandpa is a bit more safe having it in the household. 

31 minutes ago, roots.genoa said:

No, I don't think you were ever agressive (even though to be honest, I don't always have time to read your riveting posts 😅). But I guarantee you several members claimed MrBeefy's wife doesn't exist, because they think it's him that finds Amico too expensive, not her.

I'm totally Delusional despite all the evidence that she and my kid don't exist I continue to have a deep conviction that they exist. It doesn't help that I suffer from Hallucinations in which I can see both them running around the house. Out of all my problems though, I wish I didn't also have the auditory hallucinations to go with my visual ones. That way I wouldn't have to listen to her bicker at me if I don't take out the trash or whatever.

My mental health stability or maybe instability as some like to claim aside, I've been hoping to hear about the baseball announcement for some time. Out of all the baseball games there are two of my favorites that stick out, RBI on NES and the first Ken Griffy Jr game on the SNES. Both simple and fun gameplay that I think the Amico could replicate.