Intellivision Amico - Tommy Tallarico introduction + Q&A

2 minutes ago, bojay1997 said:

Ok and why does the money need to be collected this far in advance?  Like I have mentioned several times now, Google and Microsoft both did Founder's Editions and charged when they shipped.  If this isn't a means of trying to amass some capital, it seems like that would be easy to do here as well and you could still have your special version.

Sure I know that’s an option for preorders on a personal level I would rather get charged when I preorder than on release because sometimes surprise costs happen and I would rather pay now when I know I have the money than risk ordering and over drafting on my account if some big expense happens before the pay date comes 

2 minutes ago, Loafer said:

There is no hardware crowdfunding kickstarter/IndieGala that puts a full cap on units.  Atari said “hey, these models we’re capping but here buy as many of the normal edition as you want”.  This is not happening here, I wonder why Tommy isn’t just saying “the door is open how many cans we presell?”

 

because it isn’t crowdfunding 

Disagree.  Crowdfunded projects often limit various options and tiers to encourage backers to quickly scoop up those levels and meet the overall goal.  Ataribox actually had certain tier limits and then immediately broke them at the first opportunity.  Having limited tiers is the basis of a lot of crowdfunding and encourages backers to contribute more than they otherwise would.

There is nothing wrong with saying “I don’t like that they are asking for money in advance”.  That’s cool, I alluded to this earlier.  But please, the comparison to Ataribox is what is setting some of us off here and with good reason.  
 

let’s not play the “it’s just concern and opinions “ card after opening that Pandora’s box lol

2 minutes ago, Alpha82 said:

Sure I know that’s an option for preorders on a personal level I would rather get charged when I preorder than on release because sometimes surprise costs happen and I would rather pay now when I know I have the money than risk ordering and over drafting on my account if some big expense happens before the pay date comes 

Honestly, posts like this break my heart and I see them all the time on limited game groups or other limited collectibles forums.  If you're really in a position where $300 or so is going to potentially wipe you out, having flexibility with your money over the next 10 months is far more valuable than any Founder's Edition.    

2 minutes ago, bojay1997 said:

Disagree.  Crowdfunded projects often limit various options and tiers to encourage backers to quickly scoop up those levels and meet the overall goal.  Ataribox actually had certain tier limits and then immediately broke them at the first opportunity.  Having limited tiers is the basis of a lot of crowdfunding and encourages backers to contribute more than they otherwise would.

Yes but there was no cap on overall total systems to sell was there?  There is a difference between having a carrot and basing your release as a complete funding model

a reminder:  you can still back the Ataribox right now via their link, you can still buy it right now with no release date lol

3 minutes ago, bojay1997 said:

Honestly, posts like this break my heart and I see them all the time on limited game groups or other limited collectibles forums.  If you're really in a position where $300 or so is going to potentially wipe you out, having flexibility with your money over the next 10 months is far more valuable than any Founder's Edition.    

Well see?  We can agree on some things

12 minutes ago, Loafer said:

Yes but there was no cap on overall total systems to sell was there?  There is a difference between having a carrot and basing your release as a complete funding model

 

a reminder:  you can still back the Ataribox right now via their link, you can still buy it right now with no release date lol

It's absolutely ridiculous that you can still preorder stuff like the Ataribox or Polymega. I wish there were a way to make them fulfill their respective commitments before either could accept one penny more. 

Just to remain objective and unemotional about what we're talking about, it's been suggested that it's easy to be critical of a project because you don't have to do anything.  Firstly, it's not critical to challenge assumptions rather than buy into everything hook line and sinker. It's worth remembering the same applies to actually delivering on a product. It's real easy to talk about it, and how great it is and so forth, it's another thing entirely to get funding, complete testing and production, bring to market, and deliver a viable commercial success. 

If anybody....anybody...asks for money up front for something they don't have yet, that requires extra scrutiny to put it mildly. They are getting an unsecured loan from you in that scenario with no collateral, so any intelligent person should require documented protections. Lord knows crowdfunding outfits write up a bunch of stuff to justify their added charges for being the middleman, but actually provide no real protections. Offering money up front on a promise of delivery on something that is not in existence or even in production is a bigger risk. In the scenario we're discussing, the difference is the folks asking for your money don't even pay a crowdfunding site their cut and aren't subject to even the laughable protections those sites supposedly offer.

I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade, and I hope this thing is successful, I really do. It's just the notions bantered about lately that more than 2000 people may be expected to pay up front for this when there is little more than talk and embellishments, mostly conducted over the internet, is a huge red flag. When they said, I read it on the internet so it must be true, they were making a joke. These things go sideways all the live long day.

There is nothing wrong with extra scrutiny and I don’t disagree with the majority of your post JBerel

7 minutes ago, dj_convoy said:

It's absolutely ridiculous that you can still preorder stuff like the Ataribox or Polymega. I wish there were a way to make them fulfill their respective commitments before either could accept one penny more. 

Yeah they are almost at 4 million Canadian and still going strong!

i mean it’s not star citizen fiasco but..

40 minutes ago, dj_convoy said:

Yes; you'll note that everyone questioning the (possibly) drifting price or Founder's Edition is being repsectful, and Tommy himself asked for feedback about the Founder's Edition. I don't think anyone is saying the Amico is a scam. On the other hand, I don't think the Chameleon STARTED as a scam; it just became one when certain people were in over their heads. I suppose the same is true about the Ataribox (probably), but that's another kettle o' fish.

 

Some of you are very passionate about the Amico, and while I don't quite get the passion for something that isn't in your hands yet, that's fine. I just don't think you should let that passion blind you to questions or criticism. Criticism isn't necessarily bad, you know? 

 

There seems to be a tendency in this thread of tearing other things down, thinking that builds Amico up. It doesn't.

36 minutes ago, Loafer said:

There is nothing wrong with saying “I don’t like that they are asking for money in advance”.  That’s cool, I alluded to this earlier.  But please, the comparison to Ataribox is what is setting some of us off here and with good reason.  
 

let’s not play the “it’s just concern and opinions “ card after opening that Pandora’s box lol

dj_convoy you are implying blind fanboyism and I have a problem with that because people are cherry picking statements here. Let me be clear Loafer was spot on, people wade in with comparisons with the Cameleon & Atari VCS which aren't valid so you are going to get push back. They are redirecting the argument with these comparisons and then conveniently reversing themselves to just 'concerns & opinion'. Then people claim people here can't take criticism or we tear things down (what does that even mean? what got torn down in any of this thread, the Atari VCS? If you think any of my statments of the VCS are untrue or unfair then please point them out - I will correct them).

As far as the price and if this is 'crowdfunding' (a nebulous term) or just a 'pre order' (also nebulous) then my advice is simple - if the price is too high compared to the value for you get - then don't buy it (you know, like every other product). If you have any issues with the Founder Edition being charged ahead then don't pre-order it. Said it before and will say it again, any pre order is a risk - don't take it if you aren't willing to lose your money in exchange for what you might get. I don't think this could be made any clearer and you will notice in no way supports Intellvision or the Amico - they support the consumer. However 'helpful' apples to oranges comparisons will continue to get push back from me because they are lazy comparisons at best and simple hater-ade at worst.

3 hours ago, bojay1997 said:

Am I understanding this correctly that the Founder's Edition is going to be available for preorder some ten months before release of the retail version and it's going to require payment in full up front?  If that's the case, doesn't this just open Amico up to all the same attacks as the Atari vaporware console?  I mean, how is this different than crowdfunding, especially if a couple of thousand will be sold at $300 each?  I know Google didn't charge for their founder's editions on Stadia until the day they shipped, so maybe that's an option here as well.  Really confused about what is happening here as it seems to go against what I thought the plan was for Amico.  

No!  The deposit is a fraction of the cost of the console and 100% refundable.

We do things the RIGHT way.

2 hours ago, GrudgeQ said:

 

The distinction is that this is a *limited* pre-order of a *once only* special edition for fans, media people who want to get their machines a few days early and people who highly value the bonus features over just the console. I am sure you will be able to pre order the Amico for $10 at Game Stop (or something similar), but that will much closer to the actual ship date. As with *any* pre-order you are taking a risk {insert joke about $10 and GameStop here} and if people have any qualms then I suggest they simply wait for retail. This isn't the Intellivision business model, this is a bonus for early supports.

Correct!  Merely a huge bonus for folks who are interested.  We literally get HUNDREDS of emails a week regarding this, so we thought we would go ahead and do it.  All our retailers are super interested to see the commitment of fans as well.  They said they would increase their own orders if it sells out quick. 

2 minutes ago, GrudgeQ said:

 

dj_convoy you are implying blind fanboyism

I was the one that made a comparison to the Chameleon, and explained what part of it I thought it echoed. I did not say the Amico was a stupid scam like the Chameleon (quite the opposite). I just don't get doing a Founder's version when the nuts and bolts of the plain jane, normal Amico apparently are still up in the air. It seems like resources and time that could be better spent elsewhere, but YMMV. 

I'm not implying blind fanboyism, Grudge; I'm outright stating it's here. I see examples of it constantly in this thread, and it's a huge turn off. I don't understand it, especially on a forum which I generally equate with critical thinking and people not being dazzled by salesmanship. If you want to love the Amico, more power to you, but please don't give those who are skeptical or cautious about it a hard time. And maybe, for the love of Tallerico, wait until there's something to love, yes? Or at least don't get so invested. I would have hoped, as a forum, that we could all be a bit more adult about something like this, especially when you have the head of the project interacting with everyone, but instead, it's all "Nintendo is bad because porn" or "ZOMG curly haired one is bad" or "The price is going up? I don't mind because couch co-op."

This is a unique opportunity to be in on the ground floor of seeing the development of a console that seems to have some love and care and thought put into it. That's neat, so I get the excitement. What I don't get is, when criticism is leveled, or unfavorable comparisons are made, how up in arms some here seem to get. It's weird. The cult of personalty amongst the hardcore* faithful that is starting to take shape is weird and, frankly, not a mile apart from the people who have adopted the Ataribox like it's some kind of religion. 

*which is ironic because, from what Tommy says, the hardcore are not who this is being pointed at

I'm sorry to interrupt the conversation between "genuinely concerned" people and others with "way too much hype" (my doctor always warns me about that... careful with the hype, guys, it kills more than tobacco!), but I wanted to let everyone know a funny little anecdote that just happened to me while reading this thread.

I don't know much about special editions or kickstarters, so when somebody mentioned that you could "buy" the Founder Edition in a few weeks, I actually understood that you could receive the console in a few weeks (and I was already preparing my wallet, I confess).

Fortunately or unfortunately, I soon learned the sad or happy truth. 🙈

That's it for now! Now, I think I will go to a PS5 thread to let everyone know that they are way too excited and they should all cool down. Talk to you later! 🍺

2 hours ago, dj_convoy said:

And again, in the spirit of wanting to be objective and not cynical, I'm down on the idea of a "Founder's Edition" at all. Just too much into Chameleon territory- not in the IT'S A SCAM sense, but more in the putting the cart before the horse sense. I don't care about limited editions and multiple console colors and hoo ha. I want to see games and why it is that I need one of these. More power to those of you who what to be validated as early adopters or whatever; it's just not my bag. If I'm going to be buying this thing, I want to be shown WHY, and the colorful candy shell it comes in doesn't hold a lot of interest for me. 

That is totally fine!  100% understandable.

But please also recognize that there are thousands of people who feel differently.

2 hours ago, RetroAl said:

How will people be notified?  I'll have limited access from Jan 18 - Feb 4.

Email list has first crack, but I'll post the date on the email blast on here and social media.  But mailing list folks will find out first.

2 hours ago, bojay1997 said:

This was literally the sales pitch on the Atari vaporbox.  It will also allegedly be available at retail or at least from the .com sites of Gamestop and others.  You can still do a founders edition like Google did for Stadia or Microsoft did for Xbox One by opening preorders early but not taking money until it ships.  As of a couple of days ago, Tommy wasn't even sure of the retail pricing, so how can it be the appropriate time to start taking preorders for early adopters?  I mean, if this is the way this thing is going, there literally is no difference between Amico and the Atari vaporbox with the exception of a more enthusiastic salesperson and a somewhat unimpressive Moon Patrol demo.  

Then don't get the Founder's Edition.

OMG!! PROBLEM SOLVED!!!

I think it all sounds interesting. I liked the idea a few pages back about the small lighted running man statuette. That would be something really cool to display.

20 minutes ago, Tommy Tallarico said:

 

No!  The deposit is a fraction of the cost of the console and 100% refundable.

 

We do things the RIGHT way.

 

 

 

It is unfortunate that assumptions were leading to conclusions but that happens with passion and when $$$ come into play.  Thank you for clarifying that and my personal cell phone is being PM’ed to you to facilitate notification of live FE preorder lol

2 hours ago, Hwlngmad said:

You bring up some really great points.  While I understand having a Founder's Edition and other console colors at launch, the amount of conjecture and hype seems to growing a bit much.  Also, so does the price of the the console itself.  If I recall correctly, it was supposed to be in $150 to $200 range.  However, if it is going to go above that amount (say $225), that may be a little much in my opinion.  Those are just my thoughts and certainly an above price above $200 is nowhere near a travesty or anything, it just seems to be going beyond what has been said all long.  Still, I am very interested in seeing more from Intellivision and the Amico.  Just I have a little bit more skepticism now that what I did, which is still pretty low.

Your concerns are understandable.  All I can say is that we've made quality decisions over the past year that in turn will make folks even happier with the final product.  The touch screen upgrade was a huge one.  Other things as well.

We've also done EXTENSIVE price testing with our retailers and everyone is extremely happy with the value... even over $200.

2 minutes ago, dj_convoy said:

I was the one that made a comparison to the Chameleon, and explained what part of it I thought it echoed. I did not say the Amico was a stupid scam like the Chameleon (quite the opposite). I just don't get doing a Founder's version when the nuts and bolts of the plain jane, normal Amico apparently are still up in the air. It seems like resources and time that could be better spent elsewhere, but YMMV. 

 

I'm not implying blind fanboyism, Grudge; I'm outright stating it's here. I see examples of it constantly in this thread, and it's a huge turn off. I don't understand it, especially on a forum which I generally equate with critical thinking and people not being dazzled by salesmanship. If you want to love the Amico, more power to you, but please don't give those who are skeptical or cautious about it a hard time. And maybe, for the love of Tallerico, wait until there's something to love, yes? Or at least don't get so invested. I would have hoped, as a forum, that we could all be a bit more adult about something like this, especially when you have the head of the project interacting with everyone, but instead, it's all "Nintendo is bad because porn" or "ZOMG curly haired one is bad" or "The price is going up? I don't mind because couch co-op."

 

This is a unique opportunity to be in on the ground floor of seeing the development of a console that seems to have some love and care and thought put into it. That's neat, so I get the excitement. What I don't get is, when criticism is leveled, or unfavorable comparisons are made, how up in arms some here seem to get. It's weird. The cult of personalty amongst the hardcore* faithful that is starting to take shape is weird and, frankly, not a mile apart from the people who have adopted the Ataribox like it's some kind of religion. 

 

 

*which is ironic because, from what Tommy says, the hardcore are not who this is being pointed at

First thanks for the clarifying message and we don't really don't disagree that much. I would only comment that the 'tearing things down' part you point out IS sometimes overdone here (I am likely guilty here too) BUT much of it is just JBerel's statement of "Firstly, it's not critical to challenge assumptions rather than buy into everything hook line and sinker." For example I truly believe that Nintendo doesn't deserve the family friendly position they want to claim (I think they did at one time - and to be clear Nintendo is one of the best gaming companies in the world - just not really family friendly focused right now). I also don't think "The price is going up? I don't mind because couch co-op." is a valid example of blindness because that is someone's value opinion, we all have those at different levels. As far as the 'cult of the hardcore' I think you maybe overlooking the issue that some folks love to dive bomb this thread as soon as anything even slightly negative is said again platforms like Nintendo (and I don't mean slamming, I mean like my statement above). This does have a tendency to cause people here (again me included) to not let people get by with statements which are obviously untrue. Notice when it gets to something debatable like 'well if it is priced this much I think it is too high' or 'I don't like them taking money on pre-orders' then you don't see people railing against them. So again I generally agree - I just wanted to also clarify my position.

2 hours ago, GrudgeQ said:

Your right talk is cheap and doing stuff is hard. Critics have it the easiest because all they need to do is talk - that doesn't mean they are wrong, just that it is much easier than actually doing something. Because of that I just want to relate the details of a little story:

 

I went the Video Games Live concert near me not because I just wanted to hear the music (it was a great show but not the point of me attending) - instead I wanted to meet Tommy. I am sure people won't be impress that I found him genuine (I could be wrong), that he clearly loves games & gaming - I think his first sentence past 'hello' was had I seen the OG Intellivision in the lobby, but that the way he let me have a sneak peak of the Skiing game for Intellivision. He literally pulled out his phone, opened a message app, selected Hans Ippisch and played the latest video explaining this was something Hans had just sent him. After that he scrolled back a long ways and played an earlier video of skiing explaining that this was before the shadows were improved - basically he was geeking out over how the game was progressing. All of this happened in the 'meet & greet' line Tommy holds after the show (I am sure while the people behind me wondered what the hell Tommy was showing some random concert goer on his phone).

 

So what does that have to do with anything? Well either Tommy is a freaking genius conman and keeps fake messages loaded into his phone at all times to show random passersby - or - they are actively working on this stuff in real-time & often times sharing it with folks here and in person. That doesn't mean he or the Amico will succeed but I came away from that convinced that Tommy is dead serious about this project, things are actively progressing and it is way more than 'window dressing'.

Thank you for the kind words and support.  It really means a lot.

People may think it's easy to come into places like this and interact with folks... but it isn't... especially when people are being passive aggressive or rude or just talking crap.  My goal was to come here and have fun and great discussions with like minded people.  Not be put on trial.

I dont mind answering tough questions... its the way people ask them or assume things that gets tiring. 

2 hours ago, dj_convoy said:

Which speaks to my point of putting the cart before the horse. Why are the Amico folks worried about doing a special edition (and taking preorders for it!) before all of the details are nailed down for the actual unit? Nail the basic thing down completely and then worry about the rest, later. 

Lots of reasons.  Not going to go into detail right now (in the airport headed to CES in Vegas)... but lots of different business reasons.  

2 hours ago, RetroAdvisoryBoard said:

Incoming novel.  Brace yourselves, grab your comfy socks and a tall drink.

 

From the very first mention of price, this system has always been presented as the affordable option, $149.99-$179.99 USD.  In *every* interview ever given, Tommy has been deliberate in saying that was the goal, there may be certain things they cannot account for.  Tariffs often given, but also, reconfiguring part of the design, the cost fluctuations in components that may have risen a little more than they were accounting for back in 2018.  The components that didn’t take a price drop as anticipated.  Components purchased by another large buyer, decreasing availability and increasing price.  Maybe a 15% deviation in manufacturing estimates looks closer to a 20% deviation.  
 

That the system is still being targeted around/under $200, that’s 10 percent of it’s initial window, is commendable.  Truly.  I think we’re projecting however a barrier at $199.99 USD that just may not exist.  Not to the extent we think anyway.

 

Sure, psychologically we’re looking at $199.99 as this cliff.  Below that, it’s immense value, everybody and their grandmother will buy one because it’s such an attractive price.  Above $200?  We’re acting like it’s a death knelt that will push every consumer away.  Too expensive. Not worth it.  Just get a Switch Lite at $199.

 

Let’s not forget a few things.

 

1) The 2DS retailed at $129.99 and did fantastic.  $99.99 doesn’t appear to have been a psychological barrier for a single player handheld device aimed at younger children.  The 3DS XL also did well at $159.99 selling alongside it.  $149.99 wasn’t any sort of barrier either.  Perhaps consumer behavior between $179.99 and $209.99 isn’t going to be the system killer talking heads project it to be.

 

2) The Switch Lite is a single player experience.  Sure, at $199.99 Nintendo expected to push several million this holiday season and next.  But to the shopper considering a gaming system, there are five real options they’re looking at.  Nintendo’s Switch Lite at $199.99 looks great.  Wait, do the controllers come off?  Oh, it’s one player.  That’s fine, maybe my husband and daughter will share time with the device.  The games look child-friendly, bright, colorful, safe.  I know Mario and this Yoshi and little platoon kids look harmless.  Maybe I get the more premium Switch with its detachable controllers.  Then two of us can play together.  But that’s $299.  Then there’s this display of the Amico.  It’s $209.99.  Maybe $219.99.  Either way I’m spending about $200.  But this thing is for the whole family.  Nintendo is family friendly too.  Oh.  There’s games like Skiing and card games.. simple enough.  Up to eight people play simultaneously?  No additional purchases necessary?  Games are included?  I can use my phone?  Where’s the buttons? That’s it?  Hmm.. easy enough, my in-laws could play too?  Hmm.

 

Mom isn’t sold, picks the Nintendo, because.. Nintendo.  Kid is getting a machine to turn on at $199.99.  Did Mario sell you?  Better get that $59.99 Mario Odyssey.  This is her big BIG gift this year, probably want one other game to mix things up so she’s not bored after two weeks.  Add on another $49.99 or $44.99 familiar quality-looking game.  That Christmas gift is looking a lot like a $310 purchase.  And we don’t even have to question whether this is a scenario.  We see the sales numbers, we *know* people are getting a Switch and a couple games.  We know their price entry point.  We know they’re willing to fork over $300, $400 on a Switch and 2-4 games for the holiday.

 

Yet we’re fretting over $10, $20?
 

If three moms out of a hundred who otherwise pick up a Switch stop at that aisle and reconsider... “I know Trixie really wanted Mario and Animal Crossing, and will disown me and call into question my parenting skills and cripple our relationship... but this pitch about playing together with the whole family, and I can play these games, they look pretty straightforward and not too complex, too involved, too fantasy world.. and we get five games???  AND all the rest of the games are $3-$10?  Well, let’s give this Amico a try.”... If just three out of a hundred make that calculation?  That’s 150,000-250,000 sales each holiday.  
 

Intellivision would be looking at a PatMath success rate of 30 to 50 times a certain “I don’t think this sells 5,000 units” forecast.  Just in November-December 2020 sales.  Just by appealing/swaying 3% of the existing, video game console seasonal purchase market who we presume are interested in family friendly system (Nintendo).

 

That doesn’t take into consideration the appeal to non-gaming households. You know, the market Intellivision is cultivating, rather than the periphery of the existing market it may peel off.  
 

That doesn’t take into consideration the value proposition of this system to nursing homes, to bars looking for a party game solution to keep patrons around for one more drink.  (Tommy, look into the Nightclub and Bar Convention & Tradeshow this Mar 30 in Vegas.. there’s a natural market that needn’t be ruled out by “family friendly” with an inherent interest in such a product, in a party machine that does trivia, sports games, recreational and patrons don’t run off with controllers, easy to connect?  Worth the pitch).

 

That doesn’t include hundreds, a thousand firehouses and EMT stations with trained professional teams on-call with some amount of downtime and a need to quickly pick up and drop an activity like Amico offers.  
 

That doesn’t include any handful of airports who might find their appeal to customers in offering a couple kiosks per terminal wing where customers can use their phones to play together and be entertained a worthwhile endeavor, something to encourage travel the next time at their airport, not the bigger international airport alternative.  Much cheaper than installing several dozen tablets and counters for travelers, custom software and repair.  Or dying malls looking at rec center repurposed spaces and community spaces to get people to come back.

 

So I said their were six real options at the store for customers regarding video games.  Switch Lite, Switch Regular (two cream, two sugar), and Amico.  The other options?  PlayStation 5 and Xbox One X are easily $400-$500.  Those games that appeal to family are few and far between.  You’ve all seen the games aisle.  Sony and Microsoft’s whole lineup is 80-95% loud, aggressive, mature.  It is male.  It is older teen/young adult male.  I don’t think the Amico is a toss-up to anyone getting one of those two systems.  Though maybe 1 in every 300 purchasers would consider an Amico, they’re picking up an Xbox because they presume it’s going to be a good system for things it doesn’t do.  Not a large number to bring in, but, it’s bigger than none.  
 

Stores will still have PS4 and Xbox One next holiday, but they won’t be prominently displayed.  They aren’t being pushed by either company - they’re the discount option for late adopters.  And their displays will be overwhelmed by the new multi hundred-million dollar systems Microsoft and Sony need to give the strongest possible launch.  So while the price point may be similar, the display isn’t, the access to those systems and games libraries over 2021 and 2022 will be increasingly vanishing.  Amico will likely hold the space to itself by early 2022 after its first year and second holiday.  
 

3) $224.99 may be a possibility, but that doesn’t mean Intellivision is stuck at what they’re offering at $224.99. Tommy’s always proposed five games included.  Could increase that to seven or eight if the base unit cost is deemed too prohibitive.  At $200,000-$300,000 development cost for these in-house produced games, it’s a hal-million eaten up front to make up on the value proposition, but apparently the pool of devs interested in producing games for the system is already filling up for 2021, sooo, maybe clear up a couple slots.  Offer 7 or 8 games.  
 

and finally 4) $200+ may just be the perceived cost of one of these systems.  Consumers have experience with $50-$100 systems.  They’re plug & plays.  They’re relatively cheap.  They sell somewhat and make their way to Clearance.  So if we see $99.99 (the price several comments in YouTubia say this is a sure-fire pick-up), well, the non-gaming public experience with that price point is:  Cheap.  Cheap product, and it’s still $100.  $130-$200?  Their only recent experience at that price point has been the Nintendo handhelds-primarily-child-focused market.  $180-$225 isn’t really an inhabited space.  Then the jump to $300 for the Switch and soon-departing Xbox One/PS4 (formerly in the $400 range, with pro models nearing $500 and the PS3 once $600.  
 

Nothing else really inhabited that $180-$225 range *since the early arrival of the Wii*. And it had no problem at that price point, sans many Mario or big draw Nintendo properties initially.  It just appealed to relatable gameplay and simplicity.  
 

So let’s not panic if Intellivision are looking to breach $200.  There is no evidence it’s the end of the world.  Quite the contrary.. and I trust their retail and product advisors have much better data to play with than my dissertation.  Plus they probably have footnotes.  I’ll work on that for the next post.

Today... you win the internet.