Independent Amico Discussion Thread

[Flojomojo]

11 minutes ago, ColecoJoe said:

Well yeah but I would expect something better and fresh

 

The Quest, on PC and and mobile. 
 

 

[CPUWIZ]

[ColecoJoe]

[MrBeefy]

8 minutes ago, Flojomojo said:

The Quest, on PC and and mobile. 
 

 

Looks pretty cool may have to check that one out.

[MrBeefy]

6 minutes ago, CPUWIZ said:

[MrBeefy]

5 minutes ago, ColecoJoe said:

Way more funny when kevtris chimes in though.

[Tavi]

19 minutes ago, ColecoJoe said:

Well yeah but I would expect something better and fresh

 

Don't knock FTL's Dungeon Master until you try it.

The graphics are pretty 'meh' by today's standards, but the game itself holds up beautifully. Huge dungeons, challenging puzzles and monsters. Hidden treasures and passages....

This game and Chaos Strikes Back was what put Atari ST gaming on the map, it was basically their 'Halo'. It also invented the 3D dungeon crawl. There are still fan sites running for this series, and more recently spawned a very well received spiritual successor series of games, the 'Legend of Grimrock'. Not too shabby for a thirty year old game!

Once certainly could do a lot worse then to emulate the Dungeon Master style of dungeon crawl.

[Flojomojo]

10 hours ago, MrBeefy said:

Looks pretty cool may have to check that one out.

It's actually an older game, but has been updated with some modern quality of life enhancements and redrawn graphics. I could sit around and play these ancient style CRPGs all day if life didn't keep getting in the way. 
 

https://store.steampowered.com/app/428880/The_Quest/

 

Sometimes I wonder if the folks who have been away from gaming for a long time, and think they need a new console for a return to form, just don't realize what's already out there?

 

[Flojomojo]

1 minute ago, Tavi said:

Don't knock FTL's Dungeon Master until you try it.

Mmmmm, FTL. 
https://www.gog.com/game/faster_than_light

That would make a neat couch co-op game. 
 

As is Spaceteam, a cooperative shouting game. So much fun. 
https://spaceteam.ca

[MrBeefy]

19 minutes ago, Tavi said:

Don't knock FTL's Dungeon Master until you try it.

The graphics are pretty 'meh' by today's standards, but the game itself holds up beautifully. Huge dungeons, challenging puzzles and monsters. Hidden treasures and passages....

This game and Chaos Strikes Back was what put Atari ST gaming on the map, it was basically their 'Halo'. It also invented the 3D dungeon crawl. There are still fan sites running for this series, and more recently spawned a very well received spiritual successor series of games, the 'Legend of Grimrock'. Not too shabby for a thirty year old game!

Once certainly could do a lot worse then to emulate the Dungeon Master style of dungeon crawl.

I remember renting it for snes and loving it. The graphics do look meh but everything else is there.

[MrBeefy]

19 minutes ago, Flojomojo said:

It's actually an older game, but has been updated with some modern quality of life enhancements and redrawn graphics. I could sit around and play these ancient style CRPGs all day of life didn't keep getting in the way. 
 

https://store.steampowered.com/app/428880/The_Quest/

 

Sometimes I wonder if the folks who have been away from gaming for a long time, and think they need a new console for a return to form, just don't realize what's already out there?

 

I honestly think it is a mixture. So many of the old games (or new game in same vein as the old ones) are out there. It's the finding them that could be the problem. I could see Steam appearing intimidating for people. It isn't bad but for some people the hard part is getting started. I do think the ease of a console would be nice for some 

[ColecoJoe]

28 minutes ago, Tavi said:

Don't knock FTL's Dungeon Master until you try it.

The graphics are pretty 'meh' by today's standards, but the game itself holds up beautifully. Huge dungeons, challenging puzzles and monsters. Hidden treasures and passages....

This game and Chaos Strikes Back was what put Atari ST gaming on the map, it was basically their 'Halo'. It also invented the 3D dungeon crawl. There are still fan sites running for this series, and more recently spawned a very well received spiritual successor series of games, the 'Legend of Grimrock'. Not too shabby for a thirty year old game!

Once certainly could do a lot worse then to emulate the Dungeon Master style of dungeon crawl.

Oh I've played it I was just hoping for something better.

[Flojomojo]

Steam is an embarrassment of riches. Perhaps some folks just need help with discovery, curation, and maybe a little imagination. 
 

Want to play a game with me? Name a game you remember, or wish existed, and I'll recommend something from Steam or mobile with good reviews, that you can buy and play today. 
 

There are precious few truly original ideas in the world, after all. 

[MrBeefy]

25 minutes ago, Flojomojo said:

Mmmmm, FTL. 
https://www.gog.com/game/faster_than_light

That would make a neat couch co-op game. 
 

As is Spaceteam, a cooperative shouting game. So much fun. 
https://spaceteam.ca

Spaceteam seems interesting.

[MrBeefy]

5 minutes ago, Flojomojo said:

Steam is an embarrassment of riches. Perhaps some folks just need help with discovery, curation, and maybe a little imagination. 
 

Want to play a game with me? Name a game you remember, or wish existed, and I'll recommend something from Steam or mobile with good reviews, that you can buy and play today. 
 

There are precious few truly original ideas in the world, after all. 

Well crap I was going to say Maniac Mansion but I can get all those type games on Steam. Hm

[Flojomojo]

6 minutes ago, MrBeefy said:

Well crap I was going to say Maniac Mansion but I can get all those type games on Steam. Hm

Or play them on anything with SCUMM VM. Hey, Blade Runner finally got a GOG release recently. 
 

A modern series that plays like Maniac Mansion is Deponia, lots of sequels to it too. 
 

Or of course any of the very popular Telltale games. They were dead but now they're not quite gone, I gather?
 

That company is yet another sad example of hard it is to manage a stable of software developers and keep the company profitable for a long time. I love the underdogs but there's a lot to be said for financial stability and proven success. 

[JeffVav]

2 hours ago, ColecoJoe said:

Yeah for heavy keypad games I do better if I memorize the button placement but without the tactile feel of the buttons I’m not sure how that would work. But I suppose the games won’t require that much touchpad usage like a game like cloudy mountain does on original hardware. 

 

I think Tommy alluded to something about tactile feedback in one of his patent comments.  There have been a few companies taking shots at solutions for tactile feedback on touch screens over the years.  I remember one with an inflatable bladder behind an elastic coating on the touch screen that could create raised buttons.  It's a problem that's fascinated me and I used to contemplate more when we were more focused on mobile gaming.

 

@Flojomojo's comments about varying focal distances being a challenge for older people was both a valid point and stung a little too much. I've been told I need progressives, but haven't quite given in to it yet.  But yeah, switching between the TV and my phone (during commercials) is not as easy as it used to be.

[ColecoJoe]

1 minute ago, JeffVav said:

I think Tommy alluded to something about tactile feedback in one of his patent comments.  There have been a few companies taking shots at solutions for tactile feedback on touch screens over the years.  I remember one with an inflatable bladder behind an elastic coating on the touch screen that could create raised buttons.  It's a problem that's fascinated me and I used to contemplate more when we were more focused on mobile gaming.

 

Yeah that's one thing I've been trying to wrap my head around but I guess we won't know until we see it in action.

[JeffVav]

3 minutes ago, ColecoJoe said:

Yeah that's one thing I've been trying to wrap my head around but I guess we won't know until we see it in action.

Electric shocks if you get out of bounds.

[mr_me]

1 hour ago, ColecoJoe said:

I would be really interested to see how they would tackle Treasure of Tarmin!

I don't think they plan on doing treasure of tarmin.  First person perspective and single screen multiplayer would make it difficult to do.

 

2 hours ago, ColecoJoe said:

That’s still pretty hard with the physical keypad. Sometimes I think I’m on the clear button when I’m actually on number seven. I can’t imagine how they can make it any better. 

I wouldn't expect virtual buttons.  Swiping and tapping the touchpad should be designed so you don't have to look at it.

 

1 hour ago, Flojomojo said:

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Sometimes I wonder if the folks who have been away from gaming for a long time, and think they need a new console for a return to form, just don't realize what's already out there?

It takes some effort to figure that out.  Those people need the "apple" of console video games.   And what I mean by that is something that simplifies it for them.

[pesh42]

6 minutes ago, mr_me said:

I don't think they plan on doing treasure of tarmin.  First person perspective and single screen multiplayer would make it difficult to do.

Do it like Double Dungeons (PCE/TG-16) ?

[ColecoJoe]

12 minutes ago, mr_me said:

I don't think they plan on doing treasure of tarmin.  First person perspective and single screen multiplayer would make it difficult to do.

That's true, I forgot about the multiplayer commandment.

[mr_me]

They can do a top-down or three-quarter perspective view rpg game.  They are doing a game titled "adventure" and another called "swords and serpents" but there's not anything close to an rpg on their list.

Edited February 8, 2020 by mr_me

[MrBeefy]

24 minutes ago, ColecoJoe said:

That's true, I forgot about the multiplayer commandment.

I'm sure there's a way. It could easily be done if split screen, but pretty sure that is out too.

[fiudr]

On 2/6/2020 at 9:34 AM, MrBeefy said:

That would be cool but Micro Machines really would be cooler NOT being on a normal racetrack. I always like them racing on desks, around mugs, and whatnot.

How about actually racing on those tracks you could buy in the 70's/80's where you snapped them all together and the cars raced on the electrical wires embedded on the tracks? That would be neat.