Intellivision Amico - Tommy Tallarico introduction + Q&A

18 hours ago, jaybird3rd said:

That's my attitude as well.  The type of people you're referring to are people who feed off of negative energy and attention, so I recommend that everyone refrain from giving it to them.  To respond to them in any way will only encourage them, and there's no reason to do so because they've already amply demonstrated that they're not genuinely interested in discussion or open to persuasion.  (Or, to put it more aphoristically, "don't feed the trolls.")

 

(And to anyone reading this: if the foregoing description does not apply to you, there's no reason for you to be upset by it and you may safely ignore it.)

Nailed it!

19 hours ago, GrudgeQ said:

I can guarantee you that not all of the games being developed on the Amico run perfectly, don't crash, run as fast as they should, etc. That is because again they are BETA and UNRELEASED.

I will also confirm this. 

Not sure I understand what the argument even is at this point.

HEY!!!  YOUR UNFINISHED UNRELEASED GAMES AREN'T FINISHED!!!   I HATE YOU!!!  AND ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME IS MY ENEMY AND SHOULD BE CANCELED FOREVER!!!

18 hours ago, CPUWIZ said:

 

You forgot one, "That's rendered!", and don't call me a bag of any kind.  Or any one else for that matter.

That one kinda reminds me of the argument that it took over a minute to boot the console.  Even when it clearly showed the console booting up in 30 seconds and the next 30 seconds being a placeholder animation (which I clearly pointed out, stated and referenced in the video).  Yet I was still called a liar. 

So even when its shown and told that things are placeholder... you're a liar for stating that, even though the console hasn't been released.

 

18 hours ago, GrudgeQ said:

Interesting Tweet exchange from the developers of Finnigan Fox and Tommy (referring to the 8 screen shots posted here and on Twitter):

 

 

 

Yet I'm called a liar because I say the game is not an exclusive version on Amico.

16 hours ago, Toobin said:

I don't think it is unreasonable to assume that no one is talking in absolutes.  Obviously, when I say "no lag", I mean lag that isn't perceivable enough to be distracting from the gameplay.

I'll tell you what's even more unreasonable (and funny)...  that when I say those same exact words... I'm called a liar and a scammer. 

"HE SAID NO LAG!!"

16 hours ago, CurlyQ said:

 

Wait!?!?   WHAT?!?!?!?

This is the first I'm hearing of this!

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16 hours ago, Toobin said:

According to a quote from the original, now-edited article that was posted and translated on the official Amico subreddit, yes.

You mean the same article where he said we had a resistive touch screen instead of a capacitive touch screen? 

Or that you can use your RFID credit card to purchase games by tapping on the system.

3 hours ago, CPUWIZ said:

 

Why does anyone want to watch a video of a car with 3.75 wheels?  Just to complain it doesn't have 4 wheels?  Or drool about how cool it runs without having a full set of tires?

A most epic point.

56 minutes ago, atarifan88 said:

Here's a little advice; why not wait until the Amico is finished, then judge the finished product? 

That's crazy talk!

39 minutes ago, Zee said:

Can't wait for this.  I know my 9, soon to be 10 year old will love the look and style of this game.

Very cool!  Can't wait for you and him to play it!!

I will just say this: If the Amico comes out and nobody accuses someone very critical of not having the console, forcing said person to post a picture of himself with the console and a note with the current date, I will be very, very disappointed.

Tommy, one more thing with R-Type: I know this is quite a request, but R-Type Leo has NEVER been released at home outside of a very poorly emulated Irem collection that was released on PC in 2010 and that collection is no longer legally obtainable as it's been pulled from sale.

If you can somehow get R-Type Leo on the Amico... insta-buy. The game, I mean. I already insta-preordered a Founders Edition, as you know. I love R-Type Leo and it's really disappointing that it's never gotten a home release aside from that one time that isn't even available anymore.

I think all this talk of lag is very important. In fact, six months prior to the PS5 came out, I wrote them and demanded PROOF there was no lag in the system. I also asked for videos showing me the system was real and not running off a PC. Then I demanded to see hands on video of people playing the games (real people, not employees) so that I could then ask them if there was any lag.

Alas, Sony did not provide me with what I was looking for. They also never showed off what the console would look like nor how much it would cost. They also did not show off any of the games, provide any of gameplay footage, or show what the UI looked like. I also was not able to pre-order the system from any company or in any form.  Obviously the PS5 was a laggy mess and they didn't prove it to me otherwise. No, all I got was a video of Mark Cerny talking about what the PS5 "could" do... theoretically.

And what has Intellivision given me? Nothing. I mean, aside from over a years worth of pictures and videos of the console. Video of the games in action. A downloadable demo of a game I can play on my phone. The price of the console and many ways to pre-order one (or two). A CEO who does more online interviews than any human in history (perhaps a Guinness World Record?), and is extremely open about every step of the process in releasing the console. I also got video proof of actual people playing actual games, and seeming to have actual fun.  But one person, once, said there might have been lag somewhere, so who am I to believe?

As the Monty Python boys would say, "What have the Romans ever done for us!?"

1 hour ago, Tommy Tallarico said:

Very cool!  Can't wait for you and him to play it!!

 

 

I'm a girl-dad, all girls in my family   That said, I'm sure she'll love it, the older 2 might like Cloudy Mountain or Skiing, and I'm sure everyone will love trying out cornhole. 

Tommy, talking about Finnigan Fox, will we be able to pre-order the physical version before October.

We don't know how many will be available, and a lot of the first Amico users will want the game in physical form.

So we don't want to miss it, knowing that you will probably have a small quantity in physical format.

Other questions : Will all physical games will be sold at Intellivision.com ?

                           Could we have them be shipped at the same time of our Founders Edition ?  ( Or/And VIP ? )

Thank you.

3 hours ago, atarifan88 said:

All this going around in circles about lag or no lag is pointless at the moment as the console isn't 100% complete yet.

Yes and no.

It is absolutely okay for the system to have issues at this point.  Perfectly okay and understandable.

Does this issue exist?  That is all I would like to see proof of.  Not compensated testimonials.  I could give you a dozen scientologists who would swear to your face that Xenu is real.  I just want to see proof of it myself before I change my mind.

If Intellivision Entertainment said "Yes, there are some lag issues we're still working out.", then that would be understandable.  But that's not what is being said.  So, for you to say "It's pointless to ask about issues on an unfinished product" is frankly disingenuous and not conducive to the conversation at all.  The question is less about if there is lag and more about if there are issues (frankly, a pretty petty and small issue) that Intellivision Entertainment are denying exists for virtually no reason.  Because if they're willing to bend the truth about something this petty, what else are they lying to us about.

Hope that helps you (and some others) understand the concern,  Thanks.

3 hours ago, Tommy Tallarico said:

Hi,

Thank you for joining in the discussion.  I'm glad that Amico has interested you enough to find out more info.

Dozens of people who played it said there is no perceivable lag in gameplay (and they were specifically looking for it). 

 

[drama]

There are many videos out there at this point from people who have played it and specifically mentioned zero perceivable lag.

But considering you seem very passionate on getting more proof, I do have a question...

Do you believe that the dozens of people who have played Amico are all lying? 

A simple yes or no will do.

 

[drama]

Thanks.

 

Hi Tommy.  Thanks for joining the discussion.

First, let me clarify that I'm simply not interested in the petty grievances others may have against you or what you're doing or what issues you may have with them.  So let's move past that drama and stick to the amico, deal?

To answer your question, a simple yes or no won't do.

The problem is, many of the people who have commented on this are individuals who are invested, are receiving compensation, and/or are not professionals at reviewing hardware/software.  Like the guy who runs the official amico sub on reddit.  In very clear violation of reddit rules, he has received perks and boasted about getting them from Intellivision Entertainment.  Reddit rules specifically forbid sub moderators from receiving any kind of compensation.  You can see why I might be sus of someone like that.  And youtubers who get rewarded with free hats, tee, and Q&As with you.  Have you been willing to go on a youtube broadvast/interview with someone who has been openly critical of the amico?  Or only those who support what you're doing?

The IGN article is the first time someone wholly independent of compensation has come out with a hands-on of the system.  They showed a video of the screen being unresponsive and sluggish.  You first said this was due to the system not being up to date - which is a perfectly reasonable explanation.  You then said the lag doesn't exist.  Which means you're saying the video is lying to my eyes. 

Is there perceivable lag/response issues?  If so, that's fine.  You're at least five months from launch.  Do these issues not exist at all?  Even better!  So.... can we see a video that is comparable to what IGN showed, but shows these specific issues have been addressed?

Thanks.

1 hour ago, Steven Pendleton said:

Tommy, one more thing with R-Type: I know this is quite a request, but R-Type Leo has NEVER been released at home outside of a very poorly emulated Irem collection that was released on PC in 2010 and that collection is no longer legally obtainable as it's been pulled from sale.

 

If you can somehow get R-Type Leo on the Amico... insta-buy. The game, I mean. I already insta-preordered a Founders Edition, as you know. I love R-Type Leo and it's really disappointing that it's never gotten a home release aside from that one time that isn't even available anymore.

Will look into it for sure.  Thanks for the heads up!

59 minutes ago, vongruetz said:

I think all this talk of lag is very important. In fact, six months prior to the PS5 came out, I wrote them and demanded PROOF there was no lag in the system. I also asked for videos showing me the system was real and not running off a PC. Then I demanded to see hands on video of people playing the games (real people, not employees) so that I could then ask them if there was any lag.

 

Alas, Sony did not provide me with what I was looking for. They also never showed off what the console would look like nor how much it would cost. They also did not show off any of the games, provide any of gameplay footage, or show what the UI looked like. I also was not able to pre-order the system from any company or in any form.  Obviously the PS5 was a laggy mess and they didn't prove it to me otherwise. No, all I got was a video of Mark Cerny talking about what the PS5 "could" do... theoretically.

 

And what has Intellivision given me? Nothing. I mean, aside from over a years worth of pictures and videos of the console. Video of the games in action. A downloadable demo of a game I can play on my phone. The price of the console and many ways to pre-order one (or two). A CEO who does more online interviews than any human in history (perhaps a Guinness World Record?), and is extremely open about every step of the process in releasing the console. I also got video proof of actual people playing actual games, and seeming to have actual fun.  But one person, once, said there might have been lag somewhere, so who am I to believe?

 

As the Monty Python boys would say, "What have the Romans ever done for us!?"

 

 

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58 minutes ago, LePionnier said:

Tommy, talking about Finnigan Fox, will we be able to pre-order the physical version before October.

We don't know how many will be available, and a lot of the first Amico users will want the game in physical form.

So we don't want to miss it, knowing that you will probably have a small quantity in physical format.

Yes.  Absolutely.  More details coming soon.

58 minutes ago, LePionnier said:

 

Other questions : Will all physical games will be sold at Intellivision.com ?

Yes.

58 minutes ago, LePionnier said:

Could we have them be shipped at the same time of our Founders Edition ?  ( Or/And VIP ? )

 

A question for my logistics team that I don't know the answer to.  I'll ask and get back to you.

Thanks!

15 minutes ago, Tommy Tallarico said:

Will look into it for sure.  Thanks for the heads up!

 

 

Thank you. This game is great. It has everything you already would be interested in for the system: co-op, interesting and varied level design, enemies, and enemy placement, excellent difficulty curve, good music and SFX, simple 2-button gameplay, and a completely unique take on R-Type that has never been done since (aside from the R-9Leo and R-9Leo2 being in R-Type Final and Final 2). I have no idea why it hasn't gotten a home release aside from that one poorly emulated release. Supposedly there was a Genesis/MD port that was suggested at the time but it got rejected.

I think you said you have a MAME cabinet, right? Try it on your MAME cabinet, get your wife or someone to play it with you, and have fun with it because the game is awesome and MAME runs it well.

Port it, emulate it, remake it... please make it happen if you can. Insta-buy with absolutely no hesitation.

6 minutes ago, Tommy Tallarico said:

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Other questions : Will all physical games will be sold at Intellivision.com ?

Yes.

Good to know.  Of course physical games will be sold in stores as well.  Right?

31 minutes ago, Toobin said:

To answer your question, a simple yes or no won't do.

The problem is, many of the people who have commented on this are individuals who are invested, are receiving compensation, and/or are not professionals at reviewing hardware/software.  Like the guy who runs the official amico sub on reddit.  In very clear violation of reddit rules, he has received perks and boasted about getting them from Intellivision Entertainment.  Reddit rules specifically forbid sub moderators from receiving any kind of compensation.  You can see why I might be sus of someone like that.  And youtubers who get rewarded with free hats, teens, and Q&As with you. 

Nah... I'm pretty sure you answered the question.  Your answer is YES... you think folks like @GrudgeQ and others (including people I don't even know) are lying.  You just don't want to come out and say it because you understand how ridiculous it sounds. 

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Have you been willing to go on a youtube broadvast/interview with someone who has been openly critical of the amico?  Or only those who support what you're doing?

 

You're kidding right?  For someone who is clearly following a lot of nuance of this project to say that I don't do that is pretty ridiculous.

I've spoken to massive haters and people who have been super critical of Amico.  You see, the problem is that when I talk to critical folks like SmashJT or RetroBro and they find out new information (and realize that a lot of things they heard were actually not true) then they are dismissed as fanboys.  Even @GrudgeQ was very apprehensive and critical of Amico when he first hear about it.  Yet now... because he's found out more info... he's dismissed as biased.  Such a ridiculous strawman argument to make.

Here... watch this interview I just did a few days ago.  ALL of these folks didn't like Amico and felt it wasn't for them a few of them even said it has a 0% chance of EVER coming out.

Then when they talked to me, found out more info, understood that some of the ridiculous things they have been hearing were not true and based on misinformation.... they completely changed their tune and one of them even pre-ordered one after the interview.

https://youtu.be/QL6wB3sVdtI

So to answer your question.  YES... I have ALWAYS done interviews with people who are openly critical of Amico.  ALL THE TIME.  And in almost every case... once they find out more... they become interested and fans of Amico and then dismissed by people whose only mission is destroy the product, hate me and want to cancel anyone who likes me or Amico.

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The IGN article is the first time someone wholly independent of compensation has come out with a hands-on of the system. 

That is 100% incorrect.  Where do you get this stuff?  Are you really that caught in the obsessed haters web?  Shame.

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They showed a video of the screen being unresponsive and sluggish.  You first said this was due to the system not being up to date - which is a perfectly reasonable explanation.  You then said the lag doesn't exist.  Which means you're saying the video is lying to my eyes. 

No.  That is what you have been manipulated to believe by hanging out in the wrong parts of the internet.  

I've explained it many times.

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Is there perceivable lag/response issues? 

Of course there is always going to be different issues with different versions of software, firmware, etc.  It's ridiculous for anyone to think that I just conjured up the idea of Amico in my head and then it popped out and showed up under my Christmas tree in perfect working order. 

Like seriously... are you really asking that question?  You don't think that you are being just a tad detached from reality with such a question?

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So.... can we see a video that is comparable to what IGN showed, but shows these specific issues have been addressed?

There is zero reason for me to continue responding to people who constantly lie about me and Amico.

You clearly already think I'm a liar and anyone who says there is no lag is also lying.  I highly doubt yet ANOTHER video showing no lag is going to change your mind.

How come all of the other videos over the past year aren't taken into considering?  Because that doesn't match the narrative?  Clearly the case.

9 minutes ago, Tommy Tallarico said:

Of course there is always going to be different issues with different versions of software, firmware, etc.

Hello again, Tommy.

Thanks again for joining the conversation.  However, again, I ask that you leave the drama at the door.  I'm not interested in your "haters" or those "out to destroy the company".

Also, I kindly ask that you drop the personal attacks.  Trying to "shame" me or claiming I am "detached from reality" is not productive conversation.  Again, I ask that we focus on the Amico.  That's why we're all here, right?

Here's the biggest difference between @RandomYoutuber2997 making a statement that X is true and you saying X is true.

If the console ships and consumers find that X is not true, there is ZERO recourse for legal restitution against @RandomYoutuber2997.  Even if there are consumer protection laws that may apply regarding compensated sponsorships and truth in advertising laws, and even if a court would find one or more random Youtuber to be liable for any false statements they may have made, my guess is that these individuals are largely what you'd call judgement proof.  I seriously doubt any significant consumer of the Amico would be able to reacquire any significant amount of their initial investment from them.

Intellivision Entertainment, however, is a different story.  I sincerely don't think you or those who are helping you market the brand would be willing to put out an official Intellivision Entertainment video stating something that is simply factually incorrect.  If Intellivision Entertainment puts out a video that includes false statements of fact and doctored video, this would open the door wildly for litigation once the product is released and consumers find out they were presented with false information via official channels.

If Intellivision Entertainment puts out a video showing and stating little to no perceivable lag or input problems, then 100%, I would believe you because, frankly, I can't imagine you and yours being stupid enough to do something so damaging and opening you up to so much liability.

Hope that helps you understand where I'm coming from.

for my take , all the negative talk about lag is kinda ridiculous, capacitive touch screen technology has been around for a good amount of time and it has proven to be responsive so I have no doubt lag will NOT be an issue.  And for those issues and hurdles that Amico does still have to worry about Tommy has been very open about and has acknowledged. Everyone including Tommy knows there are no guarantees in creating any product, you try your best , you put it out there and you see what happens.

IE is being smart that they are trying to be and stay nimble enough to be able to pivot if some assumptions they have about the market may prove wrong. So Im not sure what more they can do other than put the product out when they can and see what happens. Hell Im hoping it does great, I loved the original Intellivision, I like the idea of reimagined classic games, I like Tommy and his team but if in the end of the day, the system fails, its not the end of my world. I simply turn on another console and I appreciate the community and friends that this community has created for me and hope they carry on later down the line since we all know how hard it is to find good, nice like minded mature and fun gamers to play and discuss the industry with.

I just dont understand why schadenfreude is so pervasive on the internet, if Tommy and his team fail, how does that make anyones life better. 

yeah i think toobin is just looking to complain/hate on the amico at this point